The supernatural apparition of Virgin Mary To Millions in Zeitoun, Egypt (1968-1970)

If there was a virgin on top of the building with all the Arab men around, she wouldn´t stay a virgin more than 30 seconds.

 

Another useless comment by gworld.
Do you even know why do we call her "Virgin" mother lady?

 

Actually he has a good point there. That bitch would get rape'd if was real and appeared.

 

If you really knew the holiness and status of our mother "virgin" Mary, you wouldn't speak like that. You just crossed your line to show what kind of a dirt bag and low life you're really are. Actually, I feel sorry for you because consequences will come to you eventually.

I won't even reply to you anymore. It's a shame.

 

Oh ok cool, good to see that you will be ignoring the fact that you have failed at any attempt to prove these fictional characters are real which of course they aren't. Hopefully in the future you will realize that Christianity or what ever religion you follow has been feeding a bunch of bull shit into your head your entire life and that you were a fool to believe in it.

 

Because she was smart enough to blame God for what the Roman soldier did, otherwise she could have got killed by stoning according to your religion instructions.

 

lol
[video=youtube;cCNu--fecco]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCNu--fecco&feature=player_embedded[/video]

 

What roman soldier? Are you still living in your fantasy world? Where do you get these ideas from?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_(mother_of_Jesus)

I suppose being ignorant is a requirement for being religious.

 

The keyword was anti-Christian polemics. looks like you've got a friend.

 

Doesn't mean it's incorrect lo/

 

That is the difference between Christians and intelligent people. Christians believe God did Mary while intelligent people believe Roman soldier did Mary. If you think logically about it, which version do you think is more believable?

 

Another proof of your lack of knowledge about Christianity. Virgin Mary was never in a relationship. The son of God, Jesus Christ - The word of God incarnated into man had to be brought to the world. Virgin Mary was chosen for her modesty and purity. Human measures should not be applied here because it is the work of the holy spirit rather than the Biological aspect that allowed Virgin Mary to conceive. Mary was Jewish and under the Jewish law from the old testament, unmarried pregnant women should be stoned. That is where the angel instructed Joseph who was her fiancee to take care of her.

 

Weren't the old testament laws been laid out by god itself? So Joseph was a cover up to circumvent his own all-wise regulations?

 

How do you know it resembles her? All you can do is claim it resembles the other supposed apparitions, which it would do if they were caused by the same thing, or that it resembles paintings of her, which are 100% fictitious inventions. In short, if she did exist you have no way of knowing what she looked like.

Doves do fly at night. But even if they didn't, it is hardly a reason to instantly assume that when they are seen at night it's because the woman who gave birth to god is appearing in spirit form.

If she appeared under a sign that said "pig faced woman of lancaster square" would that mean it was the pig faced woman of lancaster square? No? Then it's not an indication of anything.

I think what you are doing here is not positing reasons for believing, you are positing excuses. You are manufacturing your rationalisations ad hoc. You put me in mind of these people who form the opinion that aliens are visiting earth, and then show obscure, poor quality photos of objects as evidence for it. What they, and you, do is form the opinion, then look for the evidence. These crappy photos aren't going to convince anyone except the mugs who already believe it.

 

How do you know the photo of Benjamin Franklin is actually him? The photo I showed you is actually a very close representation of what she looked like in real life. The Christian Church only follows specific authenticated representations of saints and holy figures. In particular, the outer blue garment which is still kept in a museum/church until today is one of the closest aspects of her. You still call it fictitious because you do not believe or yet do not have an explanation for this. I have personal video tapes from a very close person that clearly show the apparition of virgin mary that occurred a couple of years ago. Its something that is beyond imagination and human experience. Arguing with her identity does not mean she is not virgin mary and does not indicate the apparition is not true

Absolutely not. Doves never fly at night because Doves are diurnal. They feed during the day and avoid moving at night- especially not in these quantities and shapes. If you watch the videos, these doves appear in sky out of nowhere and they are highly kinetic and luminescent. They form the shape of the cross and surround the Church during the apparition. We Christians of course know that they are not doves but angels in the form of doves. They are relatively big in size too. One of the most incidents happened about 7 years ago and one of the doves appeared above the priest inside the church- This photo

You know what? If I was an unbeliever these photos will not convince me either. They are not strong evidence. Videos might convince me a little. However, the amount of people who witnessed this from various religions and the actual experience that took place is enough evidence. There is nothing wrong with skepticism but sometimes you have to look at this from a different perspective.

 

Because it's a portrait. He posed for it with the specific intention of the result resembling him as closely as possible.

You have no way of knowing that. It was a painting painted centuries after she was supposed to have existed. This really is such a weak point. The fact is you, or any body else, can have no way of knowing what she looked like. Stop pretending that you do.

Avoiding flying at night and never flying at night are two very different things. Seriously, do you not see how illogical the "that hardly ever happens, it must be because of magic" argument is? You take something which is hugely possible and then attribute it happening to mumbo jumbo and magic.

I'm sure they see something, or at least think they see something. What i am disputing is their ability to correctly identify what they see as gods mum. If i see a light in the sky along with 100 other people would the fact that 100 people see it give credibility to my claim that what we see was the queens magic fart?

 

Well, at least you can admit that they see "something". Now take it a step further and make a connection about why these apparitions occur in Churches rather than anywhere else. The world is full of excuses. You can make up anything to deny the reality or convince yourself otherwise. This won't change the actual truth.
From your questions, you are focusing on the outer shell here. Think deeper about this.

 

Because when the are seen in other places, they are called "ghosts". I'm surprised i am having to explain this. When a strange thing is seen in an old house, it's called a ghost. When seen in the woods, it's big foot. when in churches, it's gods mum.

Sorry, are you talking about yourself here?

I prefer to think realistically.

Does it not strike you as odd that this is the best gods mum can do? She supposedly appears to give a message, which one would assume is important, and the best she can do is some vague light in a church, or even worse, the second hand account from some children about what they see? I mean seriously, think about it like a normal human being using your brain and not some conditions drone programmed to accept any old shit so long as it supports what he has been indoctrinated to believe.

 

Do you guys also believe in Michael Jackson's souls appearance?