The supernatural apparition of Virgin Mary To Millions in Zeitoun, Egypt (1968-1970)

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    Hello all,

    I have decided to post something a little bit interesting given the tension I have been witnessing on the forum lately. On a side note, I focused the details on the apparition of Virgin mary during 1968-1970. However, in case you did not know already, there was another apparition last year in Egypt as well.


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    "Between April 1968 and May 1971 hundreds of thousands of people reported seeing apparitions of the Virgin Mary over a Coptic Orthodox Church in Zeitoun, near Cairo, Egypt. When photographed, these phenomena appeared as irregular blobs of light. Primarily there were two types of events: small shortlived, highly kinetic lights ('doves') and more persistent coronal type displays that were situated primarily over the apical structures of the church. More detailed descriptions of the phenomena, such as visions often occurred as 'flashes'; their details usually reflected the religious background of the experient"

    THE VIRGIN'S APPARITION: WHY AT EL-ZEITOUN, IN PARTICULAR?

    The Arabic word El-Zeitoun means "olives," and olives are the symbol for peace. When Noah sent a pigeon to see if the water had receded, it returned with an olive branch in its beak indicating the appearance of trees and of life in general.

    When Jesus Christ entered Jerusalem, He was welcomed by the crowds carrying olive branches and shouting: "Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord." Olive branches are thus a symbol of salvation and of peace.

    According to the law of Moses, olive oil was used in the lantern upheld in the tabernacle of faith.

    WHY HAS THE VIRGIN MADE HER APPARITION?
    The apparition has two missions, one of which has been accomplished, and the other will be accomplished in due time.

    The one that has been accomplished is the consolidation of faith at a time when heresy spread and when materialistic beliefs, i.e. communism and dissipation, deny resurrection, immortality, the existence of the soul and of God and of the Metaphysical.

    The apparition of the Virgin, then, was a strong urge that has strengthened the faith of the believers and disproved the claims of the sceptics.

    The apparition of the Virgin has consolidated the Orthodox creed. Had we been in the wrong, the Virgin would not have made Her apparition for a whole year over the domes of an Orthodox church. THE MOTHER VIRGIN HAS THUS MADE HER APPARITION OVER THE DOMES OF THE CHURCH THAT HAS PRESERVED FAITH FOR US!


    Thousands of people from different denominations and religions, Egyptians and foreign visitors, clergy and scientists, from different classes and professions, all observed the apparitions. The description of each apparition as of the time, location and configuration was identically witnessed by all people, which makes this apparition unique and sublime.


    For those who doubt, I would encourage you to start doing your research on this.

    Glory to the lord,
     
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    luke12, Aug 24, 2010 IP
  2. ChrisMiller

    ChrisMiller Prominent Member

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    Rofl, clearly just a reflection off the building with the moon in the background nice try, this doesn't advance your theory that these fictional characters exist it just makes yourself look like a fool for believing in it.
     
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    luke12 Member

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    Wow, much of intelligence you have. Go tell that to the scientists, the Egyptian president and the thousands of people who witnessed this miraculous event. I am sure they were all staring at the moon.
     
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    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    LOL I'd have to agree with FreeTheNoob ;)
    Your faith is pretty weak, if no need "miracles" to "prove" it.
     
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    ChrisMiller Prominent Member

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    I would but the incense from the drugs they were high on would be to strong to even get close to them.
     
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    luke12 Member

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    I guess that was your wrong assumption in the first place. This was an informatory thread, not a prove.
    I would rather you look at this topic with intelligence then pose some intelligent questions, rather than making your weak comebacks.
     
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    Noob, you are free to go. Don't get close to them.
     
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    Haha, I was going to go to bed but now I see you are trying to get me a leave I will stay since you seem so persistent on trying to prove these fictional characters are real I will stick around for a little longer and disprove any pathetic attempt to do so.
     
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    lolz why would she appear anyway, what did she say?
    in the bible, God appears because he has something to say, but if this Mary appear and don't say something, then this is fake.
     
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    I would rather prefer a company with at least some intelligent questions. Please give it a try and let me see what you can do to disprove. Did you at least try researching this topic?
     
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    luke12 Member

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    Good question.
    She doesn't have to say anything. The apparition was a peaceful indication due to the harsh times in Egypt, particularly for Christians during 1969. The country was at war during that period and there was a lot of tense between different groups.
    However, Virgin mary doesn't appear for nothing. There is ALWAYS have to be a meaning of some sort. Last years apparition was not well understood until a massacre of 7 Christians occurred which gave the Egyptian Christian church a very hard time.
     
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    God in the bible definitely speaks, but if this Mary lets us interpret a message every time it appears then it be better to talk to herself.

    bible is intended for people, that's why its written and can be understood by people.
    if its intended for the cows, then god of cows shall write their message in the language of cows.
     
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    Why should I try researching something that was witnessed by a bunch of hallucinating drug whores and and a botched photo of a reflection and the moon? Anyone with a half a brain can see that this is just a failed attempt by the so called 'witnesses' and yourself to prove that something exists that doesn't.
     
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    ok, if you assume that all of the estimated half a million witnesses from different kinds of religions and races were under the influence of drugs, then it makes me wonder what have you been smoking.
     
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    I think this is interesting. Apparently many claim to have seen a glowing light, that appears to be a ghost like image of a woman, and it was photographed by numerous independent sources over a two to three year period of time, according to Wikipedia. In my opinion, a mass hallucination over that time is doubtful, I think they saw something, just not sure what. Why do they automatically assume it to be the biblical Mary?
     
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    There are many signs and indications of the apparition of Virgin mary in the Christian church.

    1) The most obvious one is the shape and the resemblance to her most famous photo with the outer garment. Like this photo
    2) Virgin mary is usually accompanied by white doves - indication of peace. On a side note, under normal circumstances doves rarely fly at night.
    3) The appearance in Church under her name "Virgin Mary Coptic Orthodox Church in Zeitoun"
     
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    Half a Million? That Photo only shows 2 people maybe 3 if you include the Camera man. I don't know how to get a half million out of that? [​IMG] Other then some un -reputable article?
     
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    Sigh. Maybe because the photo was taken from that angle and the main focus of the camera was facing the top?
    Not that it matters, but there are more photos of the crowds (local newspaper) at this link
     
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    Aphrodite as well. :)

    But, thanks for the explanation, was wondering about that...
     
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    WOW this Mary chick is hot and a VIRGIN ;) ;) ;)
     
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