I have just seen this forum, and generally i think it is good it exists and it is active. And for the stuff going in Gaza, In the last couple of years non of Israel's citizens wouldn't able to travel near gaza strip, it used to be a part of israels territory but no longer, since 2 years ago i think we left it for the arab forces in the area which took control of this strip, since then we are suffering from missle and bombing, a lot of terrorists attacks. Can you even imagine a missile going straight from your house top and crushes through your 3 floors destroying everything thats comes in his way? I believe you can't, and even don't want to, this is the situation that we are living in for the last years. We didn't respond for those missiles for 2 years!!! 2 dam years we suffered without spitting out a word. 2 years my brothers in the south were attacked, every second, every day, every week, 365 days a year there was missiles crashing all over their heads! At every day of these 2 years we sent trucks, full of medical aid and general aid, to the strip! every day! we didn't missed a single one! I can even tell you from my personal experience, there was a time which I couldn't go to malls and shops, there was the Intifada, the mall in my city was bombed 2 times in a row by arab terrorists! 2 times! about 100 people were killed during this painful event! Things like that became an integral part of the every-day Israeli life! I'm sure, and I think you would agree with me, that things like that won't happen in the US or the UK, because either of these two wouldn't allow things like that and would react from day one unlike the merciful Israel which allowed it to go on for 2 years! Now when we are fighting back, showing what we are made of and making the right thing, which we should have done a long time ago, the rest of the world is shouting and turning over desks and tables just because of this fight back! So right now I don't really have nothing left in my mouth, just hope that god will bless our troops which doing their best to make sure my brothers in the south can sleep safely.
Yes, you did. Can you tell us in those two years how many Israelis got killed and how many Hams members and Palestinians got killed and if you didn't responded who killed those Hamas members and Palestinians? Thanks in advance for your answer.
Let me just start off by saying that i think both sides are in the wrong and i don't think that either sides have the right to do what they are doing. And what about the Palestinians? Again, what about the Palestinians? Excuse me? Israel have not responded for 2 years?! Where are you getting your facts from? Everyone knows that that is not the case so why try and lie about it? I recently found a picture taken from BBC news site and it pretty much sums up the current conflict. Here it is; Merciful? God will not be blessing your troops. He won't be blessing either sides troops. Both Religions teach you not to practice war.
God will not be blessing your troops. He won't be blessing either sides troops. Both Religions teach you not to practice war. You're right. We responded, but not in bombing innocent people, we did some targeted kills, but never went on a mission to harm innocent people. The arabs are sending missile without any caution, just sending them into israel boundaries hoping it will kill some israelis, there is no point in this fight, but killing innocent people, especially with knowing it in advance is 180 degrees different from responding and taking off suicide bombers. You have to know that Israel does NOT want to start any war, Israel does NOT want to get into fights, thats the situation that make us this "evil", if the foreign arabs (Jordan, Gaza strip and Lebnon) would make peace with us we would never harm any Palestinian ever, but they are keep on sending those missiles and my gov' decided the only cure to those missiles are to get into Gaza strip so I guess we are starting a war.. Oh, and forgive me for my mistake, it has been 8 years of missiles, not 2! And yes, Israel is merciful, double the missiles they send in 10, thats what we could have sent to them, we can actually erase Gaza strip, but we didn't and we won't because its not "humanitarian", I guess sending missile on innocent Israeli's makes them humanitarian.. don't you think so?
Oh so i guess when the bombs are targeted it doesn't matter as much if they kill innocent people. Is that what you are saying? It doesn't matter about the reasons why Israel attacked, the fact of the matter is that innocent people are getting shot and bombed. I don't understand your logic. You say it as if Israels bombs are only killing Hamas. Did you even read that BBC image that i posted? And do you know what Israel is doing? They are sending Missiles and Bombs into Gaza hoping they will kill Hamas. It doesn't work like that. Of course innocent people are going to get killed but i guess since it is targeted it's alright. Going by your logic you want Hamas to tell Israel when they are going to fire missiles? I thought the whole point was to do as much damage as possible. Tell me something, have you ever in your life thought about it from their point of view? Take this as an example. You are a young youth who's family for the most part has been killed by Israeli bombs. You have no home, you have no family, your friends are in the same boat aswell. What are you going to do? Surely you would be filled up with rage and want to fight back? That's exactly what is happening. It's not about the land anymore. You think they deserve it and the sure as hell think Israel deserve it. No country wants war. Oh Please... Israel is NOT merciful, you can see that from its current actions. Don't be so puffed up with pride. As i said before, both sides are so wrong. It makes me angry seeing this conflict, really shows how stupid people really are. So they whole reason you won't completley destroy Gaza strip is because you think that it will make Israel look bad? You keep on talking about missiles being sent into Israel but; 1. What about all the hundreds of tons of bombs being sent into Gaza? 2. What about all the Men, Women and Children being killed in Gaza? Again - read that BBC image i posted and then come and tell me how hard you have got it. Your Logic is highly flawed, and you could call it opinion and yes people have thier own opinions on the matter but when it turns into stupidity someone needs to answer it. you are not seeing the 'bigger picture'. You seem to think that everything Israel does is in it's own rights and it is perfectly acceptable. It's NOT.
I didn't read all the post but ... Josh, it's seems that you are avoiding some critical facts. All those "men, women and children" elected hamas to be their leader, they support terrorist organization! Just this fact changes all the point of view because if I'm supporting terrorist organization, maybe I can hide weapons in my house? my be I can help them in any way? and I can write more and more facts but let me ask you one question: Do you know other army that warns people before he bomb their bulding? (for a reason of course)
Any American who pretends to support Hamas is lying to themselves. There isn't a single American I've ever met who would put up with being attacked by missiles from terrorist groups operating in neighboring countries. Not for 2 years, not even for one week. The Israelis have been far too patient. In my opinion it's because of world opinion. But the time is now for Israeli politicians to protect their own people, regardless of what the rest of the world says. Hamas is a bullshit terrorist organization that has to go.
I am not missing critical facts whatsoever, you just have no clue at all. The Nazi party in Germany was elected aswell but does that mean every citizen in Germany was a Nazi? Does it mean that every German deserved to be killed? That is what you are saying. How can you know what every single Palestinian is thinking? You can't and it is obvious that they don't all support Hamas. When Hamas was elected the people did it because they felt that they could provide security and protection, Hamas on the other hand had their own plan. As i said before, people don't want war. Who does? That wasn't a fact. Just a very very poor observation. So what if they elected Hamas, it does NOT mean that they are all bad. Countries and Armies can pose threats but they don't ever reveal their plan of attack. That would be stupid from a military standpoint.
Israel never wanted any issues and wars with our neibors, we never wanted all of this The Hamas is forcing us to get this evil and start this war, I'm with you on this - both of the sides, us and the arabs are not right, but we can not let things like that keep going, we just cant! and for the innocent people getting killed in gaza as im writing - any of them are NOT killed in purpose! The main difference between the IDF and Israel's actions and reactions to the Hamas actions is that we are not doing it for fun, or for killing innocent! Hamas is sending missiles 24 7 for the last 8 years! COME ON! it won't last for 1 day in any other country, I can bet on that! Most of the guys in Gaza uses their children as HUMAN SHIELD! IDF doing his job and unfortunately my gov' most important target is to stop the missiles coming from Gaza to the Negev, so we can't avoid killing innocent people, but I can tell you for sure that ANY of our troops who kills an innocent love it or enjoy it, it is wrong and we are ashamed of it, but this tiny little difference between us and the Hamas is that we never sent missiles without any known target to Gaza's sky.
C-O-M-E O-N! As a guy who lives this thing every day I can tell you that the people in Gaza is knowing for the last 15 years whats the point of the Hamas, what his meanings are and the rest of it. The Hamas is also have and had control in the Gaza strip even before Israel left it. On the day we left the Hamas forces took control on the strip and imposed their ideologies there. The citizens had to obey, and most of them also WANTED TO! You are living in a dream if you think they didn't knew who they were voting too!!!
Israel Drops Leaflets Over Gaza Telling Residents To Evacuate Leaflets signed by the commander of the Israeli military were dropped over northern Gaza on Saturday morning, warning residents to "leave the area immediately" to ensure their safety... "Due to the terrorist actions undertaken by terrorist elements from the region of your residences against the state of Israel, the Israel Defense Forces are compelled to respond immediately in the region of your residences. For your safety, you are ordered to leave the area immediately," the leaflets say.
Did the nazi party in germany were catalogued as a terrorist organization? And I never said that all of the palastinian are bad and wants war but the majority hate Israel and doesn't want peace. If you will get to the bottom of the problem you will see that the extremists actualy control all the palastinians, the majority of them will grow with haterd to Israel and maybe some of them will "join" the hamas in anyway. It's clearly not all the people, I know for fact that some of them wants Israel will kick hamas ass but unfortunately these people is not the majority. Learn the facts! Read the post above and search it on google, you'll see he doesn't "just" write it.