"The self delusion that plagues both sides in this bloody conflict"

are you sure? I will give you only one incident, and would love to hear your opinion after it:

source

 

It's complete crap. It's hardly an "authoritative source", is it? It's completely biased, prejudiced and dishonest.

 

did you check its validity? to know if the info there are real or not?

here is another source

 

dude you are trying to defend a terrorist nation which is no diffrent than a terrorist group like al qaeda!

 

It is funny that you mention ancient book while in the same time the neo-cons base their whole logic for existence of Israel on another an ancient book.

 

There's no logic when logic posts!

 

1) This probably is a false statement.
2) You don't have to be a neocon or believer in religion to not like terrorists.

I'm a real atheist/agnostic. I don't pretend to be an atheist and then make excuses for one religion in particular, I think they're all silly, but Islam's adherents are more devoted which makes them more dangerous.

 

I'm going shopping for your independence day gift today iggy. I figure I can get a good deal after the holidays and buying something out of season. How about some Free Country Time lemonade, it will go good on a hot august day, no?

 

So how many soldeirs did US send to "liberate" us? 100,000? 50,000? 1,000? 100?
You know the answer: 0. I dunno in what kind of reality you live thou. Again, there's no logic when logic posts.

 

Iggy, it's hard to believe you're really from Croatia when you know so little about the history of your country. The US supplied training and intelligence which was crucial to Croatia winning Operation Storm. According to a Croatian magazine, the US was pretty much in charge of the operation.
We didn't send troops because maybe Clinton didn't want to make too many Ron Paul supporters angry.

 

First of all, we did get some instructors from US but we PAYED for their service. Second, WE did win in that war. You didn't send SINGLE soldier on the ground. And claiming that US was in charge of that operation is at least laughable!
You got that info from Ivo Pukanic who was assasinated this year in classic mafia execusion. He was a close friend of a mafia boss Hrvoje Petrac whos curently serving time in prison for kindnaping a kid. Pukanic's newspapers was nothing more than one mafias organisation bulletin. If you know anything about Ivo Pukanic you woldn't take anything coming from him as a fact.
Of course, you know more about my country than me so... there's no logic when logic posts!

 

It's funny to see your position evolving. This is good, it's a sign that you can learn.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=10186723&postcount=67

 

And I will repeat again:

If you claim that help is getting service you PAYING for it than my definition of getting help and your are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to diferent.
Than again your nick is logic, isn't it?

 

It's funny. If you would have lost you'd be claiming that the US was in charge and that the company that trained the troops was just a front for the military or CIA.
I'm surprised you didn't blame the murder of the editor of one of your most popular magazines on the US. Maybe pingpong can let us know if it was blowback of some sort caused by the US.

 

Yes, it is. While we were bleeding you make harder for us to defend ourselfs by voting for arms embargo and than,when we survived, you even made money on our war. Gee! What a help! Thanks!

 

How is your post even remotely related to my post?

If you want to claim like your leader, corporal potato that I am Muslim then at least have the ball to clearly say it but probably you don't want to make yourself as ridiculous and laughing stock as corporal potato.

you have claimed many time that Israel has some kind of right to the land because of the stories in Bible, so it is hypocritical and ridiculous of you to criticize the people who believe in another ancient book.
I don't believe in any of those book and that is the reason I don't give a damn what is written in any of them and I don't chose one like you when it suits me.

 

Waaaahh. The US only provided vital intelligence and training that lead to a peace deal and lead to our independence. Waaaah. It's all their fault that we were murdering each other for decades. Waaaah. Waaah. They should give us free internets and HBO so we can bash the US on web forums and watch Entourage. Waaaah.

 

First, US didn't provided vital inteligence.

Second, US didn't provided training. Privately owned US company did provided training to some staff and we PAYED for it.

Third, I never claimed that it was US fault that war started or that it is US fault because there were wars here in past but ,as usual, egocentirc 'american' needs to add a lie or two to looks like whole world spins around his beloved US.

Fourth, because of arms embargo there were a lot more innocent casulties that there would be if we had arms to defend ourselfs. Please, keep making jokes about it. It tells me loads about what kind of person you are.

 

Yeah I voted for Obama at Gtech's behest.

Wow. You're surely getting me confused amidst all the people you debate on the various forums and blogs you post to in order to propagate anti-zionist views?

I've never said Israel has any right to any land and never mentioned the bible as justification. I think the bible is as retarded as the Quran but the people who follow it tend not to be. In fact I've said that going back to 1967 borders could be a solution, but that I'd be worried about trusting that the most radical elements of Hamas and others would quit fighting the existence of Israel, even if Israel made such a huge concession.

Please find my bible quotes. If you post them here I'll buy you some falafel.

 

Would you like some free cheese with that wine?