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The Sarah Palin Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by stOx, Aug 31, 2008.

  1. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1301
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27048784

    McCain needs something to 'swing' the momentum. Poll after poll I have read shows Obama taking an even further lead, and showing overwhelmingly both Obama and Biden 'according to those polled' won their perspective debates.
     
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #1302
    I went to see Sarah Palin in Naples, Fl today, Almost 9000 in attendance. Awesome Rally!!

    The arguments are simple. Pick Obama you get high taxes, less freedom, socialism, communism, a weak commander and chief, little military support, A loss in iraq, which will lead to a rich, terrorist filled, country that will hate America for abandoning it.

    Choose McCain you will get, lower taxes, more freedom, Government reform (AKA "real change"), a commander and chief with wartime experience, a strong military, A win in Iraq, which will lead to an ally in the middle east, and best yet, the hottest VP ever ;)
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #1303
    did they allow any interviews?
    i read somewhere that they don't even allow interviews with people in the crowd.
    why do you think she does not go on interviews?
    remember that mccain promised to bring paline for an interview with Barbara Waltrs on th view. what are the republicans scared of? Mccain must think she is a bumbling idiot.
    Mccain does not trust palin with his campaign but want us to trust her with the country
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1304
    You forgot both will bring huge deficits 'McCain's bigger than Obama's'

    Neither are very good on the 2nd amendment.

    Both suck on immigration.

    Win or lose does not equal an ally in Iraq, the people there do not much care for us on a whole.

    BTW most would see the same or less taxes under Obama than McCain, like it or hate it that's simply the truth last I looked into it.
     
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #1305
    There were a couple interviews in the crowd. I dont know why she doesn't go on interviews, but i can tell you this. She is a very intelligent and powerful speaker, which was very evident from the debate against Biden, which i think she clearly wiped the floor with him.

    As far as The View, that's the sorriest excuse for a show ive ever seen, no one would get a word in anyway so why bother.

    "Say it Aint so Joe!!" ;)
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1306
    Which appears from poll after poll to be the view of a small minority.

    She did much better than I expected her to, 'wiped the floor' though, come on that simply is not being honest one bit.
     
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #1307
    I dont know why its such a small minority, maybe it was just me, but her responses were just much more in depth than his, more memorable, and she just made better points over all. Matter of fact the only time i was moved by anything biden said was when he was relating to losing a child .

    Palins performance was, in my opinion, stellar in comparison to Bidens, i was actually very surprised to hear how many people felt otherwise.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #1308
    Maybe she sound intelligent compare to the folks that support her, to the rest of us she looks like an idiot.
    in the debate she managed to recite her talking points with the help of her notes. we have not seen her complete a sentence on her own yet.
    and they do not let her do an interview because if they do then the gig is over. you will know how stupid mccain is for choosing her like the rest of us.
     
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    #1309
    I don't mean this to be rude so please don't take it that way..

    Bias however and lowered expectations is what made Palin look 'good'

    She didn't even answer questions much of the time. I thought she came off strong but quickly fizzled. Not that 'Biden' was great either. Far and large though Biden was chosen the winner by people polled.

    I don't think it's because the people who support her are dumb. Who ever supports one side 'typically' will lower the standards for themselves in such a way, it's common practice. Even if those standards do not need to be lowered, mentally it happens and those supporting do not even realize it.

    I however have the exact opposite method more often than not, such as me criticizing McCain people around here try to claim it's because I support Obama. Truth is I often am harder on the side I support 'or used to support' I am the same way on the sports teams I support, my business, etc. It's my competitive nature I suppose, my 'team' has got to be much better, and as such I am that much harder on it ;) I am not this way in 100% of cases, but more often than not.

    Anyways to finish this rant I still do not support either side, I however do know it's common for most to allow lower expectations of those they support should they need to or not, while raising the bar greatly for the other side.
     
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #1310
    Grim, who are you voting for if you dont mind me asking? You may have mentioned before but i dont remember
     
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    #1311
    Writing in RP at the moment ;)

    Obama I can not vote for, for far too many reasons.

    McCain I used to actually support when most Republicans hated him. Since then however I have caught wind of too many things, his weak immigration stance, his weak 2nd amendment stance, his horrible campaign style, deficit increases just to name a few. These instances have made it impossible for me to support a man I used to really respect, at one time he was one of a few politicians I looked up to, being above 'politics' as usual.
     
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #1312


    A weak stance is better than no stance dont you think? If you vote for ron, your just voting for no stance at all because unfortunately RP has no chance of winning.
     
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    #1313
    War Mongers.

    It's sorry to see that so many American's are still sheeple, no more than that.

    If you have done your research and are still gonna vote republican(except for ron paul), then your level of stupidity exceeds anything that i've ever encountered.

    How many terrorist strikes have there been in the US in the last 7 years? 1

    Now compare that to the dozens that are perpetrated by american forces in iraq every single day.

    It is Dubya and his warmongers that are the terrorists, not the other way around.

    These guys are just hoping you jump on the "Americans are the best" bandwagon.
    You guys are not the best. You are no different than any other race or country in the whole world. You have no special physical or mental abililties and you are just fucking human beings. And thats ok. But you need to realize that motherfuckers. These idiots are just taking you for a ride.

    Use your fucking brains.

    The world needs peace, not war. Terrorism can not be stopped by even more terrorism.
     
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #1314
    America is the land of opportunity and freedom, though its far from perfect, i say it is the best by far. I since a hint of envy in your post. Are you not American, does that bother you?

    American or not you obviously know nothing of American principles, therefore your lack of patriotism is understood. America is not healthy right now and we all acknowledge that, but we have been here before and survived as we will again and again.

    A vote for McCain is the closest thing you will get to a reformed America. The man has a great record, he does what he says, he is not like Obama that's making blind promises that will obviously never happen.

    You want a realistic change vote for the man that has fought for America for practically his whole life, and has the broken bones to prove it.
     
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    #1315
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    Freedom ... Right. Having your telephones wiretapped is freedom.
    Not being allowed to marry the person of your choice just because you were born gay is freedom.
    Hmm... sure looks like a free country that i wanna live in.

    Envy? Haha, whenever faced with logical arguments, you guys turn to emotional reasoning. I'm fucking awed at some of you guys' stupidity, not envious.

    As is usual for creationists and nationalists, you go on honking your own horn without responding logically to my arguments. Way to go :)


    Edit: I'm not anti-american, just anti-mccain/bush. Some of my favorite people and best friends in the world are americans. I make all my money by sellling to Americans. I love you guys :D
     
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #1316
    Thats because your arguments lack fact, they are nothing but assumptions and name calling.

    I have never had my phone tapped, why do you suppose that is?

    Marriage is a religious ceremony, and it is a religion that does not agree with homosexuality, why would a homosexual want to take part in a religious act that stands against everything homosexuals believe in.
     
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    #1317
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    Oh, its never happened to me, so why should I care whats happening to others? Way to go.

    This is the 21st century, marriage is way more than a religious institution. It's a financial institution.

    Broaden your mind, you look like a typical narrowminded conservative who can't think of anything outside of his own reality.
     
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    #1318
    I would have to agree with you on homosexual marriage. I think most homosexuals do not care about getting married however, they would like some of the same benefits as married couples have such as insurance, joint tax returns to name a few.
     
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    #1319
    Not at all, selling our your principles for continued more of the same is no better. I'd rather cast my vote to someone I support.

    I know RP will not win, now that he's not on even running he wont even gather a fraction of what he could of. That is not the point, we will continue 'more of the same' until people stop selling out their principles for 'the lesser of the two evils' or a 'weak stance'.

    Well to be honest you wouldn't know if you did.
     
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    #1320
    Gay people want to get married for the same reasons as anyone else.

    It's funny how people think that gay people shouldn't want to participate in something which allegedly "stands against everything [they] believe in". would you say people who work on the sabbath (a crime punishable by death) shouldn't want to get married? what about people who eat shellfish (an abomination)? two things which the bible opposes just as much and prescribes the same punishment as it does for homosexuality.

    why single out homosexuality when the bible, By it's very content, Is evidently equally opposed to the eating of shellfish and working on the sabbath?

    it's either the word of god or it isn't. They are your rules, Follow them fully or reject the belief. Don't just use it as justification for singling out a group which you personally dislike.
     
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