The Sarah Palin Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by stOx, Aug 31, 2008.

  1. jkjazz

    jkjazz Peon

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    #1101
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  2. northpointaiki

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    #1102
    I'll take stuttering over McCain's contribution of "I defer to my seniors on this economy I was going to White Knight fix, and now, I'm going to stay, uh, quiet, fellas." :D
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1103
    No as usual you changed the topic to an anti Obama rant.
    I have a 'daddy' who might that be? Oh so you can accuse people of items but never prove it. I guess that's like all your arguments, no real substance to back them up.


    Really, who's 'lapdog' am I? I thought I had a 'daddy?' but now I am several people's lapdog, and I can call all of them daddy? Great answers you have, you simply are a marvel.
    Ahh yes pointed it out, but like you, he could never prove it 'or much less attempt to'.

    You are an Orangutan who enjoys licking goat feces. Hell I 'pointed it out' I don't have to prove it. Don't you love having your lack luster logic used against you?

    Homebiz, you simply have a ton of nerve to call someone the 'village idiot'.

    I do not hold myself to a high level, in all reality I call many people on here my 'superior'. You however are about the bottom rung, to call me a 'village idiot' simply goes to the facts that you have no real case, no real strategy, no real intelligence to be as blunt as possible.


    Hmmm, all because I called you on using others words. I do more than 'catch phrase' you however do nothing more than post untruths you can not back up, post anti Obama pictures and rants in every thread, if it's on topic or not.

    Again this is not Kindergarten, did you graduate from that class? I recently am wondering as of late.
     
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  4. jkjazz

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    :rolleyes:

    Yeah OK, whatever...
     
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  5. northpointaiki

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    #1105
    It was a joke, Jazz, which is about all that's left with Biz, since he seems to have confused:

    As supporting vets,

    and

    As trashing them. In other words, Biz isn't exactly "on target" on anything, in my opinion, and I, uh, made a funny.
     
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  6. homebizseo

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    #1106
    Since you made a funny lets get back on some type of topic. You can push your anti-McCain topic or defend the anti-Obama topics.

    Sara Pailn gave some great interviews this past week and McCain saved the day in DC.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1107
    How do you figure?
     
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  8. northpointaiki

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    #1108
    Good lord, Biz - this is tragic - really, the attempts you will make. Palin fell flat on her face, badly, again, and McCain has been completed sidelined by his own party. He was seen as someone who did worse than nothing for this process, but because of his politicization of the negotiations, harmed it. He said nothing in the White House meeting, except to defer to another Senator, while Obama spoke for the Democratic Party position - right off the top.

    Jazz, if you're watching, it's this kind of denial that leads me to say to Republicans - really, ask yourself what has been going on in your name. I think it's too late for this election, and I'm being completely sincere, but it might prove instructive for the future of your party.
     
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  9. homebizseo

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    Yes he is good

    Run on Bank Helped Kill WaMu, But Your Money Is Safe

    If the leaders do not act now with responsibility there will be more "run on banks"

    I love the first 2 comments.
    [/QUOTE]
     
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    #1110
    Ok so now users posting on news stories equates to facts?

    :confused:

    Purple elephants are raining outside my house.

    Don't dare ask me to provide proof, I said it's so, so it's so.
     
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    #1111
    I have to agree. At this point the Republican supporters seem to be behaving like they are in some kind of cult. "No matter what, all is great".
    The Democratic Party has had some questionable candidates in the past, and I was able to make my assessment with a clear head and decide who, in my eyes was better to run the country, no matter my party affiliation, but to see people still saying that Palin did great and McCain saved the day, with the video, proof, news, and articles right in their face all over the T.V. and web is perplexing, and scary.

    Thank God the majority of America is now wide awake enough to see who they were about to put in office. This refusal to recognize plain and simple actions is probably why we have electoral colleges, instead of leaving it up to people who will cut off their nose just to stand their ground no matter what.
     
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    A growing number of Republicans are expressing concern about Sarah Palin’s uneven — and sometimes downright awkward — performances in her limited media appearances.

    Conservative columnists Kathleen Parker, a former Palin supporter, says the vice presidential nominee should step aside. Kathryn Jean Lopez, writing on the conservative National Review, says “that’s not a crazy suggestion” and that “something’s gotta change.”

    Tony Fabrizio, a GOP strategist, says Palin’s recent CBS appearance isn’t disqualifying but is certainly alarming. “You can’t continue to have interviews like that and not take on water.”
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13991.html
     
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    #1114
    Apparently nobody wants to answer this since nobody bothered to before, but I'd like to see some comments from the Obama fans.

    TALK vs ACTION: PORK BARREL SPENDING BY OBAMA

    Source: Dallas Morning News

    Questions:

    1. Had you heard of this before this thread?
    2. If the names in the article were Todd and Sarah Palin instead of Barack and Michelle Obama would this be getting a LOT of serious newstime?
    3. Does this sound just a little bit like "quid pro quo"?
    4. Would it have been A-OK if he had asked another senator to request the earmark for the employer that just doubled (+) his wifes income when he gained office?
    5. Is this anywhere close to consistent with Obama's discussion in the debate about wanting to curb "pork barrel" earmarks?
    6. If Palin's husband got a doubled plus salary from his employer after she became governor, then she'd requested a $1 million earmark for that employer, would you think it was OK?
    7. What does this say about Obama's ethics, and does it bother you?

    Please answer 1 - 7 honestly. I'm curious how this is defensible. Surely it must be?
     
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    #1115
    Not an Obama fan, but a lot to do about nothing.

    Palin is reported to of made friends high paying positions without the knowledge needed for those positions. That is a direct, easily showable offense, on the other hand your attempt is trying to piece something together.

    If she wanted 'money' surely working in a law firm type setting could have netted her more than the amounts listed above.
     
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    Excuse me? You've argued on Obamas side (whether you admit it or not), and if you think it is much ado about nothing you should be able to answer the questions.

    This is exactly what the press has done. If Obama does anything shady they stick their fingers in their ears. Our presidency could go to a candidate simply on the grounds that nobody was willing to look at him closely due to the fear it'd tell them what they dont want to hear.

    You personally grim was all aflame that Palin claimed to have opposed the bridge to nowhere... it was vastly important, a sign she was a liar. I agreed that it was an overstep. Yet the stuff above is 100% counter to the picture he was selling last night about how he's Mr anti-earmark, he actually tried to pay off his wifes employer right after she received a huge raise, which magically coincided with him entering office.

    The issue the article addresses would be political dynamite if the names were Palin instead of Obama, and that speaks ill of both Obama and of our TV News organizations. Even if info on him comes out in a paper it is buried before it hits visual media.

    Apparently, just like pretty much any other Obama fan, easily observable evidence he's a liar and corrupt as hell doesnt phase you. You can claim you arent for Obama, but you exhibit the same ostrich defense as MSNBC and anyone else on the Obama wagon. There's no sense discussing this at all with people who are not only dishonest with me... they are dishonest with themselves. Talking to a wall would make as much sense. Have fun, holler if you find an ounce of integrity somewhere.
     
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    Excuse me? I've also argued on McCain's side. I am not supporting either, I however will argue when I see distortions and lies, simply because more distortions and lies appear to be coming from McCain's end does not equate to me supporting Obama, far from it.

    I did answer the question, if you want a line by line, sure I'll do it after I respond to this.
    She could make much more elsewhere, do you honestly believe this hospital would give her a huge raise simply to get a million dollar earmark proposal? The raise in itself will cost them more than the million dollar earmark would bring back to them.
    I never said he was anti earmark now did it? I however don't see the 'paying' off his wifes employer, especially since she could have gotten much more elsewhere. If you think it was about money, wow I dont' know what to tell you.

    She could make much more elsewhere, a raise that will cost more than the earmark that was attempted to get through. Medical centers/hospitals were prime candidates for 'earmarks' last I heard.
    I will respond to this via your question, line by line above.
    I am not for Obama, just because I hold McCain to a higher level because I once supported him before the likes of people like you did, just because I find more lies being done via McCain's camp like most factcheck.org type sites do does not make me an 'Obama' supporter.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Yes
    Depends, did Todd get a raise that his education does not support? Or does he make less than he could be getting elsewhere still with his chosen profession.

    If a fisherman for example got a raise to 300,000.00 that would raise a red flag.

    A lawyer making less than $300,000.00 to me does not even phase me, if anything she's still making much less than she could be.
    Read above.
    Again read above. A lawyer making less than $300,000.00 is actually odd, many make much more than that. If you think this is about money, you don't understand what lawyers can make do you?
    Simply asking for pork does not equate to not wanting to 'curb' pork. I guess if someone is for any taxes at all, they with the same logic are for raising taxes and not 'curbing' them.
    Again read above, you ask the same questions simply reworded over and over.
    I honestly do not see what you're seeing.

    A lawyer could make much more than $300,000.00 for starters.
    The million dollar earmark for a 'University Hospital' is not unusual, nor would the Hospital benefit above the amount of her raise. Plus she has been 'promoted', not simply a raise, but a new position.

    --
    I found this interesting, I don't see it in the news going on the attack of Palin however.

    http://wcco.com/politics/reality.check.governor.2.808822.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Palin


    If either of them can be proven that the 'earmark' was for a personal selfish reason, sure roast both of them at the stake. I do not take any preference over either side, I however see it how it is.
    Even in this case Todd Palin being a commercial salmon fisherman and his wife requesting $25 million for 'Coastal Salmon Recovery' I do not see anything showing it was only for personal gain.

    Pork is used on all sides, part of the reason I don't support either side.

    Now with your posts above are you going to be 'intellectually honest' and ask for this information to be head line news and attack Sarah and Todd?....Are you going to find that integrity on your own end?...
     
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    #1120
    I'm an Obama fan, sort of, and I think you've been raising good criticisms. I also do think the media would be all over a negative story quicker if it were McCain/Palin.
     
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