Thanks for the info... We know Obama/Biden team is better... <evil> My EVIL side says McCain should Win </evil> Nay, Obama would destroy mccain in the debates. First debate - September 26... Wit for it.. Its gonna be fun...
My location is as non-city as one can get and still live within easy range of DFW Airport, but it'd be tough to live here and own much land without being in the financial class of our current pres candidates. I have 4 horses, one is a registered paint, one a grade paint, one a registered quarter horse, the youngest a Percheron cross that's the size of a brit showjumper. The grade paint (Cherokee) is mine... he's the kind that makes the rider look better than he really is. Shot below is Cherokee at his favorite rest stop on the trails. I live on the edge or the trails that surround Grapevine lake, so despite living on minimal acrage for horses we have miles of woods to hit the trails right in front of the house. If you happen to pass thru DFW airport schedule a stop and we can get you into the trails for a few hours. Takes seconds to forget you're in the heart of the DFW metro area.
Thanks, Rob - very cool. And I'm very jealous. Where we were, on the shores of Lake Superior, land was still plentiful, and relatively cheap. There's also nothing going on. Our business went south, and not a lot of work for a French chef (the local big industry, a prison, didn't exactly want roast quails in armagnac sauce for its population, know what I mean?), but we look for somewhere to hang our country asses with pleasure....
What, they didnt need a new French chef at the prison? LOL... how inhumane. The wife owns a parcel in common with her brothers in the Oklahoma panhandle... 1865 acres, (unfortunately for my riding habits its mostly flat as a pancake). As my work has become largely internet based we're talking about moving out there and running some cattle. As I worked thru college being a meatcutter it'd be good eating even if the market has its bad years. Married to someone that was working on a doctorate ag degree (Animal Science) before we met... figure she could cover my lack of knowledge in parts I dont have exp in. Sarah Palin Sarah Palin Sarah Palin Sarah Palin Sarah Palin Sarah Palin Sarah Palin (there, i wasnt entirely off topic).
Just imagine if they had a chef of NPT skill in prison. The crime rate would increase dramatically just to get an entree.
rofl. Didnt think of that, prob best not to hire him there. They need the people that cook for airlines... although we might run into an issue about cruel and inhumane treatment there.
Babes? Oh hell yeah, my old office was not far from there... a few miles south on 377. Well worth a trip at any distance. Memorized the entire menu... Chicken or chicken fried steak. Either was good. I gather you've spent time in this neck of the woods. Theyre a local treasure.
I came across this today - and it says something of what I was trying to say with my above post. Take it for what you will: http://www.newsweek.com/id/160080/page/1 Said well, in my opinion, and this is my feeling too; I agree with him. I honestly don't understand what's happened to the nation. I haven't understood it for some time. Conservatism has become its opposite, a kind of radical zealotry, and in place of a search for excellence, we seek a Sarah Palin. I just don't get it.
Personally I think we already have excellence at the top of the ticket. On the other end of the ticket we have someone that is the governor of a state that served for almost a decade in a mayors spot and as such probably has a more realistic understanding of the American peoples real life than any of the other three up there. The fact that she's still drawing 60,000 to political events this week kinda indicates she's struck a chord people like. All the talk about supporting Palin being a sign of "ignorance" is frankly, well... but how many of YOU speaking of her in dismissive tones have ever been elected mayor, much less a governor? Obama himself is just a senator.... there are 100 senators out there... but only 50 governors, and neither mayors nor governors get to vote "present"... they have to actually make decisions and live with 'em. Yet because you consider yourselves "intellectuals" (possibly because it wasnt put up for a vote, you just self nominated) you talk about her like she's the banjo kid from Deliverance. Really? Pardon me if I point out that when you do this you are basically proving to be full of rather flushable stuff and need to get a grip on your egos. The self-serving tones of superiority are starting to invoke a gag reflex. Give that bullshit a rest.
Best point of the whole thread. I think this has a lot to do with it: New Ap-Yahoo, Stanford University Poll: The latest AP-Yahoo poll, in conjunction with Stanford University indicates that if there were no racial prejudice among registered voters, Barack Obama would have 6% more support with Americans. The results suggest that 40 percent of white Americans hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, including more than a third of white Democrats and independents. A small percentage of voters — 2.5 percent of those surveyed — said they may turn away from Obama because of his race. That study also suggests that the number of people who may turn away from Obama because of his race could be larger than what the margin of victory was in the 2004 election. My article Source from CNN If this a true reflection of America, and I suspect that it may be, then we are in serious trouble. To think that people are that ignorant as to actually vote for someone for no other reason than race, will eventually destroy our country from the inside out. It gives those that depend on that anger, ignorance , and prejudice in America free rein to do anything they want and put forth an old piece of BS, because peoples ignorance will make then believe it. You won't need ethics, education, or a platform, you would need only to be "white" running against someone who is "non-white". This is the first election where I have seen people so angry, and bitter and so against one particular candidate for seemingly petty reasons, that were never an issue with candidates of the past, and Presidents of the past. Some of the strengths that we claim to have looked for in other men, are shunned and ridiculed, and so many people that I talk to will make any old excuse just not to even consider having Obama in office. I think McCain could have chosen a German Shepard to be VP, and many in America would have celebrated him shaking up the system with mans best friend. Everyone has to chose based on what their beliefs are and what is in their best interest and the interest of the country, our system is build on it, but this one seems to be different...there is more anger, and personal resentment involved for some reason. No matter who is in office, when the chips are down, we have issues as Americans where we have to stand together. We don't pay our taxes, or die in war or terrorist attacks based on what race we are, it's based on our nationality. That should come first. It's sad that for so many, it won't.
Rob, I didn't expect you'd like the article, or the sentiments presented there. It voices much of what I felt in my post above, and I found that striking. No, I don't consider her the banjo kid from Deliverance, but I feel she is largely what I have said now, many times - so this shouldn't be news - I feel she's a cipher, largely, with little evidence to suggest she knows much about the world - a significant chunk of which she would hope to have direct influence over. Nor have I seen anything suggesting she has much curiosity about that world. "She doesn't blink." She speaks in the same hackneyed soundbites I've seen pronounced for 8 long years, and little else. Homebiz had this to say: And I asked him to point out any specifically "insulting sexist rhetoric, bias, or bigotry." He's said nothing, and I'd ask the same of you, Rob. Respectfully, where is the article wrong? In the absence of any actual, specific wrongs committed, I'd suggest the point of the article is proven. As to myself, I don't know that I consider myself an "intellectual," as I hope I am a lot of things. But I also don't embrace Spiro Agnew's characterization, from 40 years ago: "an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals." Nothing new, the characterization, but nothing right about it, either. There are good and honorable people who have a serious problem with Palin's nomination, on the merits. In my view, McCain's pick was a cold, political choice and from all that I can tell, Sarah Palin feels like she has been invited to a prom; the stern chaperone is the religious extreme right wing of your party. Only it isn't a prom. "Not Blinking" won't answer the problems facing today. If I can give an example, from another thread - drawn here, because I don't want the point lost. The argument going on there is that the war we've waged in Iraq has damaged our standing among Iraqis previously not particularly anti-American. I reject ATV's views (gone into elsewhere as to why), but I do think we've blown it, in this war; we toppled Hussein, but thought nothing of what to do after, and only created new generations of those who would hate us, who see us as avaricious invaders and not "liberators." I've said it elsewhere - we face a dike riddled with holes, and with every hole stopped, we create 10 more. In the instance of that thread, killing "446" terrorists mounting "9000 more." Forget the numbers, but keeping the notion, what kind of sensibility says: ? You are a vet, I'm a vet, Harold's a vet - can we not agree that their lives are to be treated with good stewardship, and not the kind of idiocy on display when the current President once arrogantly boasted, "bring 'em on?" What kind of strategy believes it makes sense that for every life taken, dozens more will rise in its place, and we are therefore to continue on this line ad infinitum?
I really don't know you. I don't know where you are coming from with this. I don't know if you are down on the "white man" or pro Obama, or possibly just posting a topic for discussion. I'll just post my thoughts let the chips fall where they may: Another "evil white man" post? Your post did not address the 93% of blacks that will vote against the white man? If 93% of whites supported McCain, there would be riots in the streets. Deduct the percentage of votes Obama has gained from the ignored racial prejudice of the blacks against the whites and you will get a more accurate number. While the study mentions that 40% had something negative to say about blacks, that negative opinion may apply to other whites, latinos, and asians as well. We just don't know. Since the study only addresses the opinions of whites toward blacks, any outcome can be viewed as prejudice. Given the accusations that Jeremiah Whight, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson sling where ever they go, I would think that if only 6% of whites are prejudiced it would be applauded. Still not a perfect world, but things are getting better.
The entire family loves Babes. Great food and always fun. A couple of years ago Oklahoma State played a bowl game at Baylor. We took a bunch of people to the game and brought all of them to Babes. We used to live on the eastern edge of Euless. We would watch the planes fly in to DFW all night. I had a lot of fun down there. Don't Mess with Texas!
Then you'd be better off saying that instead of continuing to suggest those that prefer Palin are ignorant. Saying you dont like a candidate for this reason or that is standard. Suggesting those that agree with you are "intellectuals" (glad to hear the Lindsey Lohans of the world qualify as intellectual by that standard) and those that disagree are "anti-intellectuals requires putting your personal intellect on a pedestal. I don't doubt you have a brain... but if every so often you suggest that any who disagree with you just have inferior intellect you erode that impression incrementally with each application of the practice. It's a pretty sloppy method of argument that disproves its own premise. ===== As for the guy that cant keep the race card in his pocket: A vote for Obama is not a litmus test for racism. That's a misplaced appeal to shame in a group where he is the only one that has made race an issue, or evidence someone is arguing from personal prejudice. Some of us agree with Joe Biden and Hillary Clintons assessment that he just doesnt have the chops and prefer to vote based on experience and track record. A vote for Obama made to convince others one isnt a racist is a race based decision and every bit as silly as voting against him because one dislikes his color. Neither is a reason to make a person of scant experience Commander in Chief of a superpower nation. Please argue in favor of his merits, not his skin color.
I will not cast a vote for Obama because of color. There, I said it. Are you happy? The color is green. Obama will bankrupt this country with his out of control spending.