1st sorry I didn't read all other posts, only replying to the quoted one. I replace "Jew" in your questions by "Muslim" & I can get from a lot of jews the answers you're expecting muslims to make, the conflict between Muslims & Jews is something very old & complex, there's also a similar conflict Jews - Christains ..
Your not even getting it. Your muslim brothers recently convicted in the UK for inciting hatred & making death threats to the UK were doing so for no reason, you being a good moderate muslim defend their actions, yet you can't even see it had nothing to do with the UK. The WTC bombing were caused by your muslim brothers taking their religion to seriously
somewhere there is a reply to a question or point that i never made nor implied. WTF it is i have no idea. i have seen people go off on a tangent before on DP. but never go off their rocker. i'm glad you pointed that out, i was starting to wonder if my English was much worse that i thought it was. Hold on a sec, "sent by the USA?" they are people that ran from Saddam 10 years ago and asked the UK if they can live here, the UK said yes because we cant send you back to a despot place like Iraq. "we welcome you with open arms (real arms as in hugs, not AK47's) we'll give you money and a house and free health care and a life without persecution or fear." 10 years later they are on london streets screaming for Iraq to spil the blood of our troops and bring our troops home in body bags, from the place they ran away from for fear of their lives. dont you see why we are pissed off with people like you? defending assholes like that! they are given everything, and abuse our trust, our system, and our hospitality. and it is not just 1% it is more like 30%
Sorry that you lived all your life believing this crap , now it's too late to believe the truth i guess .. i won't be able to convince you unless you come and see the reality here Your using this thing to make war on us , why don't arabs live in THEIR OWN countries free as we want to ? who asked you to come and free us ??? what a nice way to discuss to be honest ... am disappointed i just thought discussing such stuff with people like you would be nice , but it doesn't seem to be a mature discussion.
King of Kinds -- Please give respet to the older guys. you are the smart kid around. -- I am too old for baby sitting.
Haha you make me laugh, you know the truth but don't like to admit it, it's ok I really like this thread telling everyone muslims are not all bad it's only some, i guess you were trying to come across as moderate only to go on to say: I don't trust Jews Israel kills innocents all the time for no reason The west bombs it's self Claiming everyone is brianwashed (except you)
stock_post wow you're so funny man can i be your friend ? please ? you're just pathetic. this topic was made to discuss that thing in a mature way , so go find another place , and leave this topic for the matures please
Read this. I think you guys could of gotten alot of more than you have now, if only you didn't allow such terrorist organizations to rule and make such problems.
Toopac .... why are you guys making it so silly , am saying yes theres brainwashing , but why don't you either discuss that in a mature way or stop with the silly comments , with all the respect that is my friend .. anyway , one day you'll travel somewhere that shows the reality and you'll see it ,but just convincing you through words seems to be impossible as you're making silly comments switching the topic to silliness -.-
you're totally right , but it's not about terror .. we could've been alot better , but we're not even close to terror , we're just having terror on us and being flamed on as if we're causing it. but you're right , we could've been alot better if we used the world long time ago the same way USA using it now, brainwash europe , kill the arabs for oil , don't allow the great countries to have much weapons so only they can rule the way they want , and you guys are just loving it that way. wake up !! what's wrong.
So what you basically say, is that it's fine with you what Hamas/Fatah/Hizbullah does ? Do you think that is the solution of getting what you want ? What i'm saying is, you could of gotten alot more if you acted civilized, and never allow such organizations make a bad name for you. All of this could have been negotiable in a much easier way, which would probably benefited both of the sides. But that ofcourse did not happen.
I'm saying that if you had your country raped and you're children getting killed daily and strangers are destroying your home and asking you to go live in a crappy tiny place when you had the whole country for your own , you just simpley agree and go asking them for mercy ? no way ! you should fight back , when you get your child and all your family killed you won't worry for your life and get humiliated by asking for mercy just to live for no reason left. and only those few organizations are fighting back and you want the arabs to be against them , that's too hard to do when you live the situation.
Negotiation is not mercy. These are two different things. You are living in a reality that continued from many years ago. Back then, before all these groups formed, there weren't such disputes each day, and children and families weren't killed so often as now. And as to this: That's another thing many people dislike about Islam and Muslims. It seems as if you guys always resort into violent thinking. Negotiation means begging for mercy for you, and you should stand up and FIGHT to get your own. That's what Mohammad did, but that was long long ago.
violence has been and still being used on us ,so it's not us thinking about violence , but violence cannot be stopped except with violence too.. and the negotiations your talking about are like : give us your country , go make a village and live in it , all the country resources are for Israel , and u get to live .. actually thanks , but no thanks if you call that living.
So what you are basically saying, is that this thing will never come to an end, or either one of the sides is eliminated ? Coexistence is not an issue here ?
It will come to an end when the American goverment changes , Israel won't be able to use violence cause the whole world will be against violence then , cause for now no one can be even against violence if America has a hand in it , so that'll make Israel make some better negotiations by like splitting into two even countries or something,but eliminating one side won't happen , not Palestinians nor Israelis will be eliminated.
Might i remind you that the only violence being used by Israel is acts of retaliation against the terror organizations. Once you stop the organizations, this is when violence will stop.
well , if those DEFENDING and not terror Organizations stops , Palestine has nothing left to defend with , it'll become totally hopeless , but the violence will stop without those organizations stopping , it'll happen just when the American goverment changes.
Devilhellz do you think there's any place occupied within Palestinia, if not, what's the negotiations you requested would be for, "stop attacking and live where we thought is best for you", is this the negotiation?