20 million people on the same land mass as 300 million.. Hmmm... Me thinks that is enough to make anyone down under "shut up" It's all relative. Anyway, for the record, I have nothing against Australia. After all, you guys are some of the biggest Bush supporters on the on planet. Thanx for the help!
Whether I have that or not is irrelevant. What's relevant is the numbers and I handed them out to you. When there's any major crime, the police collects reports from witnesses of the event that witnessed the crime that took place. Some may have seen more details, some less. But just because someone have seen less doesn't mean that the others is wrong. By the way, you may believe the CNN footage in loose change where the guy said, "It looked like a missile". In the whole interview, he talked about the plane, but the Loose Change guys cut that off. The amount of articles is not the important thing. It's the quality of the article. The feeling you get from it is irrelevant. Your government have made anti-terror laws to prevent activity from Al Qaeda. Your PM even slammed Obama for his light stance on the war on terrorism. He's obviously a lot more worried about Al-Qaida then you seem to be. So if your government talks so much on it, doesn't it mean that they are a part of a conspiracy if your belief is correct? You are right that it's not necessarily true just because it comes from the government. But it's always those who question an official explanation that have the burden of proof on their shoulders. If the government lied, it's the job of doubters to find an alternative theory that outperforms the official explanation. Such has yet to be done. But also remember that you have all major foreign secret services(that was operating in US) against you. No, I don't believe in governments as a singularity, such as you seem to do. You got different people their with different views and opinions.
by not watching screw loose change. you missed a lot of the lies the movie loose change brain washed you with. sad Brum because here was i, thinking you was someone open and inteligent, and willing to seek the truth, wow did i make a mistake.
That screw loose change looks very tacky to me, I'm just watching it. Seems that they quote quite a bit from the 9/11 Commission Report Whitewash though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission#Claims_of_bias_within_the_commission It needed a fully independent report, and then that might quell some of the mutterings surrounding that fateful day. Mind you, at least there was some kind of enquiry into 9/11, the false flag terror attack on 7/7 in London there wasn't even a public enquiry into it. Terror drills (exercises) being carried out on 9/11, a terror drill on 7/7 with bombs going off in almost the exact same places that the bombs went off. It's all very very suspect. One thing I have noticed so far watching this Screw Loose Change is how it highlights the many many flaws in the response of NORAD into dealing with events. It's almost like it is trying to defend the US Governments mistakes on that day of which there were many. I'll come back and comment further later, just watching the rest of (sh)it.
Maybe then, you'll come back and respond to those pentagon facts/pictures you STILL haven't replied to Otherwise, I'll not be waiting with much anticipation.
Actually, how well the economy is going is based on a number of different formulas, not the one you provided. That is why what you said was irrelevant. And this has something to do with anything because.... I have not watched Loose Change. Ok but going on what you said, he was like "oh its a plane" the entire interview, then for some reason said "it looked like a missile?" Our PM is a complete tosser. Just because HE thinks something, doesn't mean either the Government nor the rest of Australia feel the same way. The only reason he hasn't been booted out of power is because the opposition are a bunch of tossers. Now they actually have a decent leader, the figures are around 40%/60% against the PM. If we want to argue about what the definition of a meat pie is, it is not up to 1 person to prove the other person's definition false. If the Government released information then it would be pretty obvious as to what happened. In the meantime they will hide what they feel like, and publish what they want in order to get what they want. What "feeling". This guy was making shit up left right and center. Australia will be overrun by muslims and emo's long before any terrorists take it over
Of course, but GDP growth is relevant. If the growth is around, 1%, the economy usually is in a recession. If you have other factors you want to talk about, please bring them up. He described the plane, using missile as an adjective. I don't know how the others feel, but doesn't they need some sort majority to make anti-terror laws in Australia? Also, your Department of Defense takes this threat seriously. Now we are not debating what you mentioned. We debate how an official event took place. If it would take place differently than the official story, there would be tracks that you could research in order to disprove the official story. However, enormous amounts of time has been spent by 9/11-CTs in order to find anything. Still their scorecard is filled with a big zero. And to answer your previous beliefs that "It would be pieces and cars everywhere", let's take a look at this clip. You can clearly see how the airplane turns into dust. No, it was a scientific well sourced article, on the bottom of it, you can see references.
If you think that's awesome, you should also see Screw Loose Change. A bit long, but it debunks pretty much everything. Saw the conrete-colliding clip first in that movie.
best movie i have seen, and it uses the "loose change final cut" where they should have fixed all the errors, but sadly it has just as many in it, and still they believe in loose change, i wonder how many send a letter to santa every year?
If they would fix all errors, they wouldn't have anything left to display that would indicate a government conspiracy, so they are forced to keep most errors
Well this thread is kinda sad for your side, so I can understand what you mean. btw.. anything that you would like to add? Have we convinced you yet? Have you seen the movie?
Mate, I don't have a side and I never have. I believed various bits and pieces, but never relied solely on either side... I don't know what to think. Uhhhh need to go clear my head..
"Oh woe; oh pity. You are but an everlasting bitter taste upon the tongue of man – lingering with remorse and dignity. You truly are the makers of men. Gasping from the pits of despair, you manage to grasp hold of those weak, those needy; that of us. Why o why must thou seek? Descend upon Mankind? Ancient, a word far from effect or meaning. Natural or self-inflicted, genetic or divine, matter be it not, but heed its ironic affect. Come bring rise to life, later curl and fall – for it be rule; rule above all, and simple as it may be, that to all horror and pain, bring end and closure; start nor stop, two falsely distinguishable words, as by definition pretentious, due to both exist one." Just thought I'd share a little gem.
Well, that video there pretty much puts a complete and total end to the conspiracy debate. BTW, I wonder what a missile would do under the same conditions. My guess is the missile would actually penetrate the concrete and upon detenation do even more damage. Great find Latehorn. You've completely debunked this without question as a result.
i dont have a side? funny how you watch loose change and then question what it proves are facts, then you dont watch screw loose change, which proves frame by frame how loose change omitted or changed facts/statements to make the crap fit, all loose change is, is proof that you can mislead people and make them believe anything but the truth, with the omittion of evidence and facts, and omitting parts of peoples statements so it looks like they are infact saying the oppisit of what they are really saying. loose change should be used as teaching program for MP's and PR staff, on how to misguide and mislead people willing to take anything on face value. you want this thread to die, because you wont or dont want to admit you was lied to and taken in, and make to look a fool by loose change, and or, you dont want to look like you are being onesided while not willing to watch what will prove to you how you was used. and brum, i have made 4 posts to you on this and not once have you replied to me. that also speaks volumes. been nice knowing you. have a nice life. 3000 people lost their life, and loose change mocks them, welcome to the asshole brigade, i am sure AGS welcomes you with open arms.