The Real Cause of 911?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by yo-yo, Dec 22, 2005.

  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #681
    Brum, duly noted. The questions are too difficult. Since the "mental disorders" wasn't directed at you or anyone by name, I can only presume you believe the circumstances that would define such, as I noted, fit you and as such, have taken issue with it.

    Imagine, for a moment, if you took issue with the lies of these conspiracies in the same manner.

    The questions you presume to be asking, are being answered. Time and again. With solid, factual evidence. To suggest you haven't found sufficient evidence goes to the heart of what I'm saying.
     
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  2. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #682
    I think that's the heart of it isn't it? Without question, they believe what a video tells them. And demand we answer their questions. But when its proven, the evidence is never sufficient enough to make them disbelieve their bible. It's a religious debate isn't it, when it comes down to it? No matter the evidence, its not enough or its glossed over as provided by heretics (sheeple).
     
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  3. latehorn

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    #683
    Since it only the crash was "one minute away", the plane probably had other problems(if it flew at a lamp post height and not much higher).

    However, since Screw Loose Change didn't went more into details on this one, can you pick up an article about it? It might refer to the actual problem. And truther-sources are not reliable, so you better pick it from a serious news site or something.
     
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  4. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #684

    Without getting technical - large object moving at very fast speed hitting much smaller objects in a very short distance for that speed.

    Drive your car into a small mailbox at 5mph. Now take a semi and drive into 5 mailboxes or even 20 at 80mph and over a 20foot distance. Now you tell me did that semi lose complete control or deteriate over that 20 foot distance?

    smaller scale - skate board going 3mph and you hit a pebble about 1/2" inch - sure it can make a mess...
     
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  5. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #685
    I'm wondering after 5.5 years we are still debating this...its obvious that the nutjobs are never going to give up on their own theories, no matter how much we prove them wrong...I feel really sorry for those people.
     
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    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #686
    Jesus Christ... you're not getting my point. I haven't seen the video and believed it all blindly, that's why I'm here! I'm putting the questions here 'cause I haven't seen the answers! Maybe AGS has and some other people, but I haven't. I was just curious of everyone else's view. You're treating me as if you know exactly what I think by speaking to others that may have some similar opinions, then trying to rip me apart with preprepared arguments, of which you used for others before me.

    Debunked: I'm afraid you'll have to get technical, because cars and skateboards, however metaphorical, differ significantly to planes.
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #687
    Looks to me like you are debating the issue with conviction. Or am I not reading your posts clearly (not our conversation).
     
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  8. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #688
    So we've answered all the questions before, and now (Because you don't want to look) you expect to be catered to and get the same questions answered again? Did you at least read screw loose change? It's a good start. Not in depth enough for some actual issues, but it blows some huge holes in the movie anyways.

    Yep AGS has seen the answers and refused to acknowledge reality on several occasions.
     
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  9. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #689
    I have read some articles and excerpts from various documents attempting to debunk the truthers. But I prefer to ask questions here as it's much more dynamic than a piece of past literature.

    Gtech: It may seem I've debating with conviction, it's probably a natural thing because of the whole 'ad hominem' flying about, and the fact that neither side seems to be getting anywhere. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #690
    Very much so, Lorien. What I'm trying to do right now, is better understand and identify the mental disorder that this would be classified under. With that information, I can do some research on how clinical psychologists go about session treatments (not just the medication that it requires) and better understand what insecurities causes such, and what they need to hear in order to come back into reality.
     
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  11. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #691
    I believe it's called denial or maybe fantasising. I wouldn't class that as a mental disorder as such though.
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #692
    What about delusion? It does seem to fit well under the definition and "fantasising," but somehow I can't help but think there is more to it:

    http://www.webmd.com/content/article/118/112882
    It is a chilling definition.
     
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  13. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #693
    I somehow get the feeling you enjoy posting things like that...

    I don't think anyone in this thread has what you so frequently 'diagnose'.
     
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  14. latehorn

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    #694
    BRUm, it's ok to ask questions, but one should be critical to both sides and judge the evidence fairly.

    However, if you take a look at these 9/11 threads, you can see that most of your questions have already been answered. Therefore some people may get tired. But I'm willing to discuss this with you, as long as you clearly define exactly what evidence that you are missing, what is suspicious and so on.

    The official story is more likely to be true than any other theory, since it doesn't require a hell lot of a people in order to conspire. Also, when we put it into test, the official version have been able to stand up.

    So, since it's an official fact that the 9/11 happened as the official story says, the burden of proof is on you. If it happened differently, you have to research it and bring up the facts that contradicts the official version. This has surely been one of the most investigated event by journalists, scientists and CTs. Yet we haven't seen any more reliable theory than the official version.
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #695
    Well, as long as we admit that its not serious then. And its just preferring to live in fantasy land. I can accept that ;)
     
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    #696
    I agree with lorien. If the truthers agree that their theory are just a fantasy/belief that shouldn't be taken seriously, I wont debunk them anymore. It's ok. Everybody needs to believe in something, I guess.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #697
    its all part of the easter bunny, santa clause, tooth fairy crowd anyways.... LOL
     
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    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #698
    Pffff I wasn't saying truthers are like that. Just... nevermind. Why don't we all leave this thread's topic? I'm interested in what else you all do here in DP, business wise :)
     
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    #700
    Well, what you know is wrong. I assume you have completed 2 years of economics, 1 year of which was based solely on Australia? No? Then shut up.

    Why not trust all the witnesses that DIDN'T see a plane

    By the way, bringing in 1 news story as evidence is not very convincing. The media always blow everything out of proportion, the way that writer went on it's as if there are Al-Qaeda waiting to kill us the minute we step out of the house

    You are completely stupid. The only thing which makes it "official" is because it's by the Government. That in no way makes it truth.

    If you believe everything the Government tells you, I'm pretty sure the don't have an IQ score low enough for you
     
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