The Proxy Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'General Business' started by antman, Jul 14, 2007.

  1. newzone

    newzone Well-Known Member

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    #3701
    do you know something like a bulk IP checker ? to find the country of a large number of IPs ?
     
    newzone, Jan 11, 2008 IP
  2. lanmonkey

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    #3702
    1- I can only see this being an issue for you if you plan on taking his script, removing the credits and using it to make your own proxy script, and probably charging for it. This would be a really LAME thing to do.

    2- In #1 you complain that that you don’t like glype because Nick might close the project if people keep removing links and in #2 you say you don’t like leaving the links in. That’s hypocritical. In any case its REALLY easy to tell what proxy script you are using by viewing the source code and looking at the html form so you might as well leave the link back giving the developer some credit. Afterall your making cash from his hard work, and if your not making cash why would you be in the proxy business?

    3- if you want full Myspace and Facebook compatibility you will have to pay $500 and get a paid script. The only one that worked to any degree (even though some sites still didn’t work properly) was happy proxy, which was completely encoded with ioncube so you couldn’t get at the source code, but even happy proxy has stopped working with Myspace and Youtube and the developer has disappeared.

    Phproxy = officially 100% dead project, the url encryption it uses is blocked everywhere anyway and it can’t access any popular sites without heavy modification.

    Cgiproxy = no update for well over a year, probably wont be any more, and you have to be a server expert to get it to run well.

    Glype =
    Works right out of the box
    Still actively being developed by Nick
    Works very well with Myspace, youtube (with plugin), Orkut, Facebook, bebo etc..
    is FREE (if you leave a link back)
    Has a theme system
    Has a plugin system
    Has a setup wizard
    Has a manager script in the works that lets you manage hundreds of proxies from one screen
    Has LOADS more features
     
    lanmonkey, Jan 11, 2008 IP
  3. newzone

    newzone Well-Known Member

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    #3703
    i found an ip checker, i use glype and i like it most
     
    newzone, Jan 11, 2008 IP
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    #3704
    of course there are always going to be idiots that do stuff like that, and it's because of idiots doing exactly that which caused that stance from nick in the first place. it's that same reasoning that is holding me back from running with it. if OTHER idiots keep doing the wrong thing and the source gets closed up, then the rest of us are stuck too, potentially after spending considerable effort and $$$ to get it customised exactly the way we want it.
    the point i'm trying to make with the link is that if you don't want it (which i don't) and you play by the rules (which i do) then you can pay to get rid of it, which is fine. presently, i have 3 dedicated servers, totalling some 44 separate IP's, at GBP25 per IP. i'll be adding more ip's in the not too distant future, and then more servers after that. do you see where i'm going with this ?
    i know. i'm out of pocket about $250 if he doesn't come back. that's why i'm here throwing ideas around...

    nothing wrong with a bit of constructive debate around here :)
     
    almecho, Jan 11, 2008 IP
  5. nick-a

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    #3705
    Facebooks a tricky one. But not rocket science.
     
    nick-a, Jan 11, 2008 IP
  6. rodney88

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    #3706
    It doesn't bother me if you choose not to use the script but I'd appreciate it if you didn't spread rumours to discredit it. I have never said that I'm considering stopping the project. All I have said when questioned about the future of the project, is that I can't make any long term guarantees and that's because I can't. I have no idea what I'll be doing in 6 months or a years time and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

    Regarding the license, people need to understand there is a difference between open source and free to download. The script is free to download and use but not to do whatever you want with (i.e. redistribute, sell, claim as your own work, etc.). Every time I mention this I seem to get criticised for it, which I don't understand. The only difference between this license and a paid script is it's available for free and the source is unencoded and unencrypted. Why is that a bad thing? You seem to be quite happy with your Happy Proxy script but that's not released under GPL.

    Pretty much all software, even open source projects, require a copyright notice. Some charge a huge fee for removing it, others don't permit it at all. If you want to take credit for my time and effort then you have to pay for a license to do so. That's not unreasonable in the slightest.
     
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  7. Scriptona

    Scriptona Notable Member

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    #3707
    Unfortunately you are really correct. people think when you are giving it for free is that they can do whatever about it. and even charge money to distribute it (I already replied to a thread where a lamer was selling a modded copy of your script) so I do understand it's a big effort from you to keep chasing such infringements of your rights.

    As a code owner/developer you do what the right to set your own rules. as you are giving the script for free then you really deserver the credit and I don't know why would anyone want to take that right from you. Maybe those cases you ran through were newbies who don't know how to properly understand their rights and other's rights.

    Keep the good work up man :)
     
    Scriptona, Jan 11, 2008 IP
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  8. newzone

    newzone Well-Known Member

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    #3708
    it is ok to block an ip range like this in .htaccess ?

    example from 220.224.0.0 to 220.227.255.255 not only 2 IPs

    deny from 220.224.0.0/220.227.255.255
    deny from 221.120.104.0/221.120.111.255
    deny from 221.128.128.0/221.128.255.255
    deny from 221.134.0.0/221.135.255.255
     
    newzone, Jan 11, 2008 IP
  9. lanmonkey

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    #3709
    I have noticed that there seems to be this underlying view that proxies are somehow dodgy, shady, grey area or black hat and therefore its all an unregulated free for all. Every man and his dog did modifications of phproxy and tried to hawk it for $80 or something. Probably why most paid proxy scripts are encoded with ioncube because the programmers don’t want people to see that their expensive scripts are modifications of free to download scripts like phproxy.

    Could be one of the real reasons why the guy who made phproxy has ditched it, because he saw people growing fat off his hard work.

    IMO proxy sites are as legitimate as any other and therefore proxy scripts, and their owners, can expect the same degree of “protection” and "respect" (for want of better words) as directory scripts, arcade scripts, forum scripts etc.
     
    lanmonkey, Jan 11, 2008 IP
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    #3710
    I'm getting nice revanue with my proxy. AdSense is ql but i earn most with ProxyAnnounancer Affiliate. You earn $0.20 per every subscriber. I have at least 5 sign-ups so i earn $1 per day with this Affiliate. And my traffic is not high - from 200-300 UV per day.

    Register at SenseSites(See at my signatures) !


    What kind of advertising do you guys use ? I'm using newsletters. Any other ?
     
    koporc, Jan 11, 2008 IP
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    #3711
    Alright then people, should I trow phpproxy off my server and get glype?
     
    boebi, Jan 11, 2008 IP
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    #3712
    Yes !

    I think its the best PHP based proxy scritp at the moment.
     
    combat, Jan 11, 2008 IP
  13. Jarmas

    Jarmas Banned

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    #3713
    Happy Proxy is crap! When I used it the other time it uses more than 70.0 cpu load at peak hours when a normal server uses less than 1.0 cpu load at any given time. It uses up tons of cpu resources due to it's ioncubed mods and script.
     
    Jarmas, Jan 11, 2008 IP
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    #3715
    What is the advantage of using a ioncubed proxy script and is there an advantage at all, or just a disadvantage (of high CPU usage)?
     
    ColorWP.com, Jan 11, 2008 IP
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    #3716
    Happy Poxy has lots of good features, it just uses up tons of cpu resources thats all.
     
    Jarmas, Jan 11, 2008 IP
  17. newzone

    newzone Well-Known Member

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    #3717
    who knows how to change the color of the url field ( where the user types the name of the site he want to browse) in surrogafier ?
     
    newzone, Jan 11, 2008 IP
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    #3718
    Hey guys. Playboy Proxy went f PR 0 to PR 5 and it's only 4 weeks old:)
     
    Browning, Jan 11, 2008 IP
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    kaung Twitter @KaungKo

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    #3719
    try finding "url" id in your style.css or css file
    and see if it gives background option.
     
    kaung, Jan 11, 2008 IP
  20. newzone

    newzone Well-Known Member

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    #3720
    i changed the php code for the url field ( added new proprieties ) , now is fine , thanks for trying to help me , hard... with this surrogafier
     
    newzone, Jan 11, 2008 IP