The problem with clickbank and its products promoters its loaded with scams

You know I come across product reviews on the internet sometimes and then when I get to the end of a page it has a link to the product. That link will contain a clickbank link....in this case sometimes its affiliate links from somewhere else.

Well a lot of products on clickbank or outright scams and lies based to take peoples money. People will promote anything to get money even if its a scam and clickbank does not test these crazy ideas themselves.

Water4gas for instance is nothing more than a scam yet tons of people promote it and similar ideas and even a person on this forum I saw on his blog he had it up top or something.

It just makes me mad to see people scamming others knowingly by either the seller or the promoter and getting away with it.

Its really amazing just how dumb a lot of people are....

Thats the problem with clickbank.

 

I know your entitled to your opinion and I respect you for making it, but.. if you dont like it, you dont need to get involved!

There's plenty more around.

The matter of the fact is CB offers a 60 refund policy, its a rough guess, but lets say if there were 10,000 sales in a day, maybe 20 of them are refunds?

People buy this, and they dont want there money back. Most product still contain information, even if in your eyes its trash, to others its gold.

Ashley

 

No you dont get it.

Its not my opinion its a fact. These items are scams as in they dont work. Its not the quality I am talking about its the fact these things are scams.

The spyware programs on clickbank are almost all fake scams. They display false positives to get your money when free alternatives such as spybot s & d and adaware SE are out there. Making money is one thing but scamming people is rediculous.

Now do you get it?

 

Like I said.. even if in your eyes its trash, to others its gold.

Tell me something you love.. bagels? or maybe even cows?

I hate bagels.. scams.. why would I pay for such shit. Cows? Killing the earth with their gas, and beef can be pretty foul at times.

Do YOU get it?

 

Oh and on another note which affects us all..

Computers, washing machines, TV's, games consoles all electrical items, are built to break after 5 years. Look at the iPod.. everyone bought one, and you cant tell me you dont know a single person thats never had a problem?

Id call that scamming.

So lets look at who else your talking to here..

Microsoft, Toshiba, Sony, Nintendo, Acer, Dell, IBM, the list GOES ON.

 

Oh and on another note which affects us all..

Computers, washing machines, TV's, games consoles all electrical items, are built to break after 5 years. Look at the iPod.. everyone bought one, and you cant tell me you dont know a single person thats never had a problem?

Id call that scamming.

So lets look at who else your talking to here..

Microsoft, Toshiba, Sony, Nintendo, Acer, Dell, IBM, the list GOES ON.

DP Owners.. recently in the news being sued for cookie stuffing.. you wanna blame them for scamming too? http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/08/26/eBay_Sues_Alleged_Cookie_Stuffers_.htm

 

You are not getting it still. If you cant see what I am talking about I am not arguing with you.

Look up the meaning scam and then get back to me.

Again its not dislike but a scam when something does not work. Simple to understand, I thought.

 

Why do people keep coming in here to bitch? cowsgonemadd, you're not going to change any minds here. Go file a complaint with the better business bureau and move on.

 

clickbank products are just for making money for the product creater and the affiliate, has nothing to do with giving and value to the buyer. thats why the refund ratio is increasing day by day

 

I came here to start a conversation to see if others noticed this not to "female dog" anything.

 

Well, hows this for a discussion... full money back guarantee? Usually scams take your money and run, but this "scam" will refund your money, no questions asked, over a 60 day period. Doesn't sound like a scam to me.

 

Well maybe scam is a strong word. You seem so offended as if??

Its more the info is not true. At least in the water4gas system and the spyware programs are scams for sure. Some of them.

 

Water4gas, and spyware programs are just a small sliver of what sells on clickbank. Clickbank does make over a million dollars in sales a day. And they have the easiest refund policy of any of the online merchant programs. They have a 60 day no questions asked refund policy, and they'll cancel your product if the refund rate hits a certain percentage. So if someone gets scammed on clickbank, it would definitely be their own fault for being too lazy to ask for a refund. I'm not saying that there isn't crap out there on Clickbank - because there is, I've bought some of it. But I didn't get scammed, because as soon as I saw that it was crap, I got a refund.

 

Some of the products is a scam, but most of the products still make sense and they can reach many markets. Try to find a different niche and promote it well.

 

What's the big deal??? Have you ever heard the phrase "Buyer Beware"! Just because there are products out there for free that might be the same or even better than the one being sold is no reason to call it a scam. If anyone wants to do enough research and educate themselves about everything and anything there's no one stopping them. I know I've bought things and later found out that I could have gotten it free or cheaper or whatever but guess what?? I didn't! Whose fault is that?
We all have to take responsibility for our own actions or lack of actions and live with the consequences. It's still the best way to learn - sometimes an expensive way but we hopefully, do learn.

 

I did not say anything about free. When you sell something you know is not going to work its called scamming.

 

You wanna talk about scams, ay?

I don't come to your church and call your god a scam now do I? Though I could and I'd be feel just as justified as you do right now, but but but you won't change any minds. You won't. All you can do is try to present your case in an intelligent manner which I'm still waiting for...

let me put this in a way you might understand:

"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he means."
This goes double for clickbank. o.k.
Hail Satan

 

Well, this has definitely been some interesting reading as I sit at the computer in the middle of the night (because I can't sleep). Very interesting indeed!

When I was growing up, I used to read a lot of comic books. Towards the back page there were always these ads for X-Ray Specs, Dribble Glasses, Fake Ice Cubes, even a Submarine built for two that promised to take me and a "first mate" to the depths of any body of water. Like most kids, I saved up my money and bought most of that stuff only to find out that it was all crap. Was I scammed? Probably. But whos fault was it? Mine!

Lets say you walk into a video game store and see this huge video game promotion, complete with a huge display, awesome graphics and one hell of a sales pitch. You buy the game instantly and rush home to play it - only to find it is the worst video game you have ever played. Where you scammed? No.

You visit an electronics store to buy a TV, Computer or even a Cell Phone. The sales person give you a very well thought out, inticing speel about how it is cutting edge, top of the line and by far the most superior product available today - and guess what? It happens to be on sale and there are only a couple left. So you buy one only to find out that it is a piece of junk not even worth the cost of materials it is made out of. Where you scammed? No.

Why aren't you scammed?

A scam is when you get a phone call saying you have won a large cash prize but you must first send a check to cover the taxes before the can release it to you.

A scam is when you get a knock at the door from someone asking if you would make a "charity donation" only to find out later that the charity doesn't exist or that the person at your door doesn't work for that charity.

A scam is when you get an email saying you one a big screen tv but must first visit a web page and use your credit card to pay for the shipping only to realize there is no tv.

If you buy a product (tangible or digital) without doing your research first - to compare the product to other similar products or similar price range, then if what you buy is crap, only one persons fault. Now, if you did all your research and still find out the product is crap, you still are not scammed. Because at the end of the day, you made the decision to buy that product, and if you don't like the product? Return it!

A scam is when you lose money or were tricked out of your money. Like I illustrated above.

Take for example the Water4gas Product (not to pick on that one or single it out - just an example). People buy it because it says it will save them money. They buy it and find out that what the eBook is proposing is beyond their understanding, beyond their mechanical abilities, or simply they do not want to install it in their car for fear something may go wrong. Or perhaps the product wasn't worth the digital paper it was written on. Was that person scammed? No! Why? Because Clickbank will give you your money back - no questions ask. You email them and request a refund, provide your receipt number and usually within a day or two - the money is back on your credit card AND... AND... you still have the product! Where's the scam?

Ever hear of the saying "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"? You can read the best sales copy in the world, and it sounds absolutely perfect - just the product you are looking for. But that's where it ends! You are the one that takes out the credit card and purchases it. There isn't any pressure to buy. There is no reason why you have to buy it now instead of tomorrow when you thought about it a bit. There's no sales person breathing down your neck telling you what you want to hear. You buy it because it sounds like what you are looking for. Is it crap when you get it? If so, return it!

How is Clickbank any different than eBay when purchasing an item? You find the perfect item, buy it and find out its garbage. But look at the BIG Difference between the two in terms of gettng your money back - where do you get your refund from and how quick do you get it?

Clickbank has a lot of crap products - we all know that... but they have a lot of really awesome ones too!

You are entitled to your opinion, just as we all are. You are free to shout from the top of the world that Clickbank is crap. Just don't expect us to all follow your opinion like sheep. Some will... some won't. But that doesn't make your opinion any more right than mine or any one elses on here.

 

hmm, what is this affiliate link you talk of? And why is it at the end of a review?

 

NYXANO You are the man. Thats a good little rant right there.

Madcow or whatever your called.. go away! Why do you think we are all disagreeing with you? Your calling all of us scammers, and don't try to deny it!! It didnt need to be said!

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