The Palestinians cutting the hand that feed them, again!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ohad, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. Ohad

    Ohad Guest

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    #281
    what's wrong with you?
    in your last comment you said that we lived here 2000 years ago, so how they were here before us?
    and get something:
    in 1800, in both banks of "Eretz Israel" or "Palestine", there were 250K people. including Jews,Muslims,Christians...
    in 2008 there is 11 million Muslims on both banks. does it look to you like natural increase?
     
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  2. sweetsara

    sweetsara Peon

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    #282
    Only 8% of Palestine was Jews 60 years ago, I think you should pack your bags and move back to europe if you are true to your logic, if not keep quiet
     
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  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #283
    That is one of the silliest arguments of all time on this subject. It's beat to death BTW... And as far as moving, it would mean back to the reservation in Oklahoma where my grandfather was born... ;)

    On second thought, I guess I can stay where I am at..

    My point is, and I think everyone knows that sweetsara's position is that Jews don't belong anywhere but in an oven. She has made that abundantly clear in almost every post.

    Giving Israel, their "reservation" as it were, is not much different than the indian analogy.
     
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  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #284
    When you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME!
     
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  5. sweetsara

    sweetsara Peon

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    #285
    You said it, not me. I think it is sick you could say something like that though, considering you only apply your logic to Arabs, but not to Jews, it proves your racist standpoint on things.

    I hope you know, being a Christian, that Abraham's son, Ishamel, was the first Arab. Will you still be a Christian after you know this, that 'dirty' Arabs are part of your religion?
     
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  6. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #286
    All one has to do is look at your posts to come to this conclusion. I agree, it is sick.

    And for the record, no one is talking about Arabs. You do realize that Arabs were not always Muslims, right?
     
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  7. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #287
    sweetsara is nothing by an ignorant kid.

    I don't blame her for her ignorance, it was probably taught to her. That is the true tragedy of a group that teaches ignorance and hate as a way of life.
     
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  8. sweetsara

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    #288
    Browntwn, you are mistaking me for Ohad ;)
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #289
    NO, it was likely beaten into her. It's really sad to be honest. I pray for people like this daily!
     
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  10. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #290
    I don't mistake my enemies for my friends.

    Ohad's views are no threat to me or America. Yours are.
     
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  11. sweetsara

    sweetsara Peon

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    #291
    Do I care? NO. You and Mia are the reason for the ' Dumbass American' sterotype, well, mabye it is not a sterotype? :rolleyes:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

    Thankfully there are more respectful Americans on here such as GRIM and Guerilla, otherwise I would really believe it is not just a sterotype. :eek:

    Aww, is this how you talked to your wife? No wonder she left you
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #292
    congrat what was the score.?
    please make sure you answer the few question that i asked before. i am really interested in knowing more also i have some new question
    do the palestanian and israelis in west bank share any communities or schools or anything like that?
    can they buy a house in the settelments?
    do you think such integration if don't exist already would help ease the atmosphere?
     
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  13. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #293
    and you still use the same nonsense answer. which tribe has elected you for their representative. specially with your idea about he snakes :p:D
    we just learned that there are some israelis that do not want them to live with each other. we are trying to make them change their mind:)
     
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  14. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #294
    Not really silly at all, looks like a double standard for those who say..
    but but but the jews were there first, yet don't have the same thoughts for Native Americans ;)
     
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    #295
    1964 Jordanian State showing all the original Palestinain trans-Jordan mandate. It's clear that the Jordanians realize that they are Palestinians.

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #296
    It's impossible to reason with people who hate Jews... I'm out of this discussion.
     
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    #297
    :eek:

    don't take your toys please!

    when you can't discuss, you say: hate jews, or anti-semitic, or something similar, this is getting old, if thats how you discuss, then thanks for leaving the discussion.

    you know almost nothing about the conflict, yet you come to discuss with sentences, like hate Jews, snake, snake in ice, snake went to house, quotes from movies.. then when somebody gives you little knowledge you cry like you know what, I now know why some people have you on their ignore list, for me this is the only thing you been successful in explaining.
     
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  18. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #298
    browntwn who is your enemies and who is your friends ?
     
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  19. Ohad

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    #299
    1. In the PSD that I gave you there is information about the surveys.
    2. Israel expelled their own citizens from Gaza Strip 3 years ago. I am sure that this is not "boom" and all the "Palestinians" will be in Jordan. it is a process.
    3. how many support... umm... don't know exactly, maybe 20%. it has been discussed a long time ago.
    1a. The "Palestinians" can't enter to the most of the settlements from security reasons. usually when a "Palestinian" success to enter to settlement, it is terror attack.
    2a. No. Jew can't but a house in Ramallah too.
    3a. look at 1a.
    4a. do you think it's realistic?

    score: 92-85 for Maccabi. :)
     
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  20. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #300
    Jews are not celebrating Israel's anniversary :

    We're not celebrating Israel's anniversary
    In May, Jewish organisations will be celebrating the 60th anniversary of the founding of the state of Israel. This is understandable in the context of centuries of persecution culminating in the Holocaust. Nevertheless, we are Jews who will not be celebrating. Surely it is now time to acknowledge the narrative of the other, the price paid by another people for European anti-semitism and Hitler's genocidal policies. As Edward Said emphasised, what the Holocaust is to the Jews, the Naqba is to the Palestinians.
    In April 1948, the same month as the infamous massacre at Deir Yassin and the mortar attack on Palestinian civilians in Haifa's market square, Plan Dalet was put into operation. This authorised the destruction of Palestinian villages and the expulsion of the indigenous population outside the borders of the state. We will not be celebrating.
    In July 1948, 70,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in Lydda and Ramleh in the heat of the summer with no food or water. Hundreds died. It was known as the Death March. We will not be celebrating.
    In all, 750,000 Palestinians became refugees. Some 400 villages were wiped off the map. That did not end the ethnic cleansing. Thousands of Palestinians (Israeli citizens) were expelled from the Galilee in 1956. Many thousands more when Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza. Under international law and sanctioned by UN resolution 194, refugees from war have a right to return or compensation. Israel has never accepted that right. We will not be celebrating.
    We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state founded on terrorism, massacres and the dispossession of another people from their land. We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state that even now engages in ethnic cleansing, that violates international law, that is inflicting a monstrous collective punishment on the civilian population of Gaza and that continues to deny to Palestinians their human rights and national aspirations.
    We will celebrate when Arab and Jew live as equals in a peaceful Middle East

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/30/israelandthepalestinians

    Prof. Haim Bresheeth :
    "Israel is unwilling to talk to Hamas, which won the democratic elections. Hamas on the other hand, is willing to talk to Israel so long as it withdraws from all the territories."
    Bresheeth accused Israel as being responsible for the situation in the territories: "The real terror is the one Israel has inflicted on the Palestinians for 40 years now, the terrorism of a strong state against a relatively weak organization. We are pushing the Palestinians into a corner where they have no choice by the attacks. We must not do this, the fact that the government of Israel cannot ensure the safety of its residents and the safety of Sderot is solely its own fault."
     
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