The Obama thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by homebizseo, Jul 20, 2008.

  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #341
    It's not just sad. It's blatantly obvious! I think that coupled with the denial is what makes it so "sad!".:cool:
     
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  2. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #342
    :rolleyes:

    Sure it's 'obvious'

    Just as obvious as everything else you could not even try to attempt to prove.
     
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  3. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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  4. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #344
    The only thing that's obvious is both are hypocrites and talk nothing but crap. Most of their supporters are just as bad if not worse ;)
     
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  5. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #345
    Obama was willing to accept campaign contributions from lobbyists. Obama's state Senate campaign committee accepted contributions from insurance companies and their lobbyists - including $1,000 from the Professional Independent Insurance Agents PAC in June 2003, and $1,000 from the Illinois Insurance PAC in December 2003 - while the Health Care Justice Act was wending its way through the Illinois General Assembly. Obama also collected money from the insurance industry and its lobbyists for his successful US Senate campaign in 2004.

    soucre

    Barack Obama's Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Connection
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    A group called the Center for Responsive Politics keeps track of which politicians get Fannie and Freddie political contributions. The top three U.S. senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political bucks were Democrats and No. 2 is Sen. Barack Obama.

    Obama's ads and stump speeches attack McCain and Republican policies for the current financial turmoil. It is demonstrably not Republican policy and worse, it appears the man attacking McCain — Sen. Obama — was at the head of the line when the hogs lined up at the Fannie and Freddie trough for campaign bucks.
     
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  6. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #346
    Yep more of Repubs = good, Dems = bad.

    Same info already posted on here, when in fact both sides suck.

    McCain's campaign manager was lined up to the 'trough' but yep lets be blind and blame only one side.
     
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  7. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #347
    Rollin' rollin' rollin', keep the party rollin', Rawhide!!!!!!

    Firstly, as a matter of principle, it would be nice if rather than cutting and pasting the text verbatim from the Fox News article and posting it as his own sagacious pearls, Biz would place the material as a quote. Not that difficult, Biz:

    That said, also curious when the propaganda's going to end. Once again:

    Once again, McCain, the guy "independent of financial services money" and "Obama the guy in the back pocket of the financial services sector," when the facts show otherwise. "McCain, the fiscally responsible" candidate, and "Obama, the prodigal son," when the budget for both is within single digits of each other.

    Propaganda, nothing more.
     
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  8. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #348
    Morally and legally he should.
     
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  9. hmansfield

    hmansfield Guest

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    #349
    Biz, be honest... is your hate for Obama and anyone who likes him racial? Because you are very pissed off about him for some reason and will do anything to support Mccain/Palin, even when they are wrong....and insulting to everyone who prefers Obama.

    I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just asking because it seems to be personal with you.

    Why are you insulting people with this "handout " stuff. That sounds like the same old Republican rhetoric that only welfare people vote Democratic. That rhetoric is about as outdated as cassette players. I think Archie Bunker (a fictional character) was the last to spout that mess of assumptions.

    It is the sideshow that Republicans have played over the years, scaring white Americans into believing that Democrats will help out minorities and stick it to the "white man".

    I base this on 20 years of listening to poor white Republicans explain their irrational hate for Democratic candidates. Many of the reasons given for staying with the party that keeps screwing them over has been things that they associate with Democrats like Welfare, and Affirmative Action and both of those have racial undertones...and haven't been true since the 60's.

    I understand that people associate Democrats with minorities, specifically blacks. Is that what it is that pisses you off so much ?
    Just be honest, it won't make me mad or anything, but at least i can understand a little more where all this hate is coming from.

    Even I don't hate McCain or Palin, I just don't prefer his policies right now and want to g another direction. But there is no hate there, quite the opposite, I respect him...he is just not for me.

    You seem to hate Obama.
    What's the deal ?
     
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  10. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #350
    No it's not racial. I think the man is a two-faced liar or fraud.
    I am not pissed at all. I think Obama will put the country in dire straights. Why would anyone want socialized healthcare and banking?

    1 trillion in new spending when the government can't operate in the green now.
    Why would anyone endorse such spending habits?

    Obama' economic plan will increase inflation, increase deficit and slow down the economy even more. Why would I endorse this nonsense. I here person after person say they think Obama will increase handouts.
     
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  11. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #351
    Few problems with your 'facts'

    Obama is not for a total socialized health care system.

    McCains plan has been shown to grow the deficit by leaps and bounds over that of Obama's. Where do you get that Obama's plan will 'increase inflation, and slow the economy down' even more?

    Yet you support McCain. :confused:

    Both side sucks, however to support one who has been shown to increase the deficit even further than the other, but then have the nerve to rip on the guy who's plan grows the deficit the least for growing the deficit is simply out there.
     
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  12. hmansfield

    hmansfield Guest

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    #352
    What has he lied to you about ?...and the country is in dire straights now !

    It's not new spending, it's different spending, and cutting out some waste and tax breaks of the current administration. He is not an idiot.

    Why don't you actually read the Economic Plan and get back to me, and stop listening to "persons" who have probably never actually read it either.
    Here is a link.

    Every Economic meltdown that we have had in American History has been under a Republican administration:

    The Great Depression : Hoover
    The Savings and Loan Collapse : Regan (McCain's buddy Charles Keating)
    The Mortgage and Housing Market Meltdown of Banking and Wall Street Investment Companies : George Bush

    Deregulation has killed the economy and stripped away the protections of the average American over, and over, and over again.

    You need to stop listening to "persons" and start getting your information fist hand. You keep supporting your own destruction.
     
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  13. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #353
    Government run healthcare will ruin the healthcare industry. When has a government anything improved anything.

    I have seen study after study on TV and in the classroom and Obama plan will push the economy into a state of total collapse. You have the nerve to continue to lie to prop up Obama. What a joke. The mindless sheep headed to the slaughter.


    Yet you support Obama. :confused:
     
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  14. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #354
    Last I checked Obama's is not for 'government run' healthcare.
    Please quote some. I am not 'propping up Obama' I'm calling you on your continued lies.

    http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/index.htm?from=rss

    For just one such instance showing McCain's plan is believed to create more of a deficit than Obama's. I have read many of them.

    The spin by McCain's side does not count as facts Homebiz...
    Showing you for the hypocritical liar you are does not equate support for Obama ;)

    I think both camps suck in this instance as both spend more than they bring in, causing our great nation to go even further into debt.

    Difference is I see both suck, you on the other hand give the worst of the bunch for 'deficit' a pass while bashing the other for it.
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    Nice 'I know you are but what I am' classic Homebiz.
     
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  15. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #355

    You are a classic tool Grim. You are known to be the biggest liar and attacker in the forums. You are very amusing.

    you forgot to add the rolleyes but you did use catchphrase
     
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  16. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #356
    Wow excellent response to being shown YOU lied. Call me a liar, yet in fact the posts above clearly show the only liar is you. The biggest 'attacker' yet you continue on with 'moron' and other attacks every other post.
    ahh yes a catchphrase, anytime it's something Homebiz can rip off as he can not think of anything himself it's a 'catchphrase'

    Now that would you call the mumbled junk you post exactly?
     
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  17. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #357
    for those who like the boss. Now that he has endorsed obama
    obama rising
     
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  18. LogicFlux

    LogicFlux Peon

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    #358
    This is shocking. I expected all the left wing entertainment liberals to endorse the republican candidate.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #359
    why should it be shocking. everyone is supporting Obama. just enjoy the music
     
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  20. LogicFlux

    LogicFlux Peon

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    LogicFlux, Oct 5, 2008 IP