The Obama thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by homebizseo, Jul 20, 2008.

  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #301
    Bleh.... This is just nonsense.
     
    Mia, Sep 23, 2008 IP
  2. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #302
    Sure it is, keep telling yourself that.

    I bet someday you might even believe it.
     
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  3. jkjazz

    jkjazz Peon

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    #303
    More what?

    What do I need to add? What are you even talking about???
     
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  4. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #304
    I forgot, you have no capability to rationally address a topic at hand.
     
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  5. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #305
    Obama not wanting to suspend campaigning and work on the task at hand shows the American voter that Obama is not concerned with economy. McCain and Obama need to be in Washington.
     
    homebizseo, Sep 24, 2008 IP
  6. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #306
    You honestly believe what you say don't you?

    If you can not see that what McCain did was simply a ploy, well I don't know what else to say.

    A single senator who doesn't know much about the economy isn't going to be much help in the matter.

    The next president will have much more power and influence over the situation, being on the road seeing the situation for themselves. Spreading their message, debating, letting people see what they have to offer.

    There is way too much at stake to run back to Washington at this moment with the election right around the corner. Stay up to date as much as possible on the situation, the election is right around the corner and needs to be finished on schedule.
     
    GRIM, Sep 25, 2008 IP
  7. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #307
    Ploy or not Obama and McCain have been campaigning way to much and they both have neglected their duty to serve their state. The bailout is more of a concern to the voters at the present time than a debate that neither one will win. The debates are a waste of time. The Candidates will say the same thing they have been saying.
     
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  8. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #308
    I agree, Grim, and I do find it astounding that anyone would seriously try to argue otherwise. Mr. "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" and "I don't know anything about economics" is going to suspend his campaign "for the good of the nation" (smallprint: "and when numbers are running away from my campaign."). I find it a sad, sad commentary that his ploy may just work. What should have been a glaring exposé on McCain's candidacy may be spun to his advantage after all.
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #309
    When has Obama actually done anything other than vote present? Its not like he is doing any less than he has when he was not on the campaign trail.
     
    Mia, Sep 25, 2008 IP
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #310
    Yep he's never sponsored a bill, never voted on anything, never did nothing.

    It's fine to hate a guy, but at least use some factual basis. :rolleyes:
     
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  11. northpointaiki

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    #311
    Ahead of tonight's debate, it is interesting that Obama has come close to recovering all lost ground on electoral college nods: As Real Clear reports it, from a zenith of a 92-point spread, and a nadir of 20-points down, Obama has recovered to +65 as of today. With a forced "no-leaners," tally, if the election were held today, Obama would have a clear win of the presidency, at 286.

    It will be interesting to see what effect tonight has on either candidate.
     
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  12. Firegirl

    Firegirl Peon

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    #312
    What percentage of Democrats and Republicans were polled? These polls that show who is in the lead I think are worthless because they don't really show if they polled 60% Democrats and 40% Republicans or what the percentage was.....
     
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  13. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #313
    The Real Clear methodology isn't shoddy as you're conjecture implies (in fact, no statistical source of any repute is, to be honest - if you're not familiar with statistical analysis, look up "sampling methods" as a start). Like Rasmussen Reports, the Quinnipiac study, CNN, all of them, it employs a host of markers to try to parse electoral votes. They're all showing the same thing, a significant move to Obama.
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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  15. northpointaiki

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    #315
    Saying nahnahnahnahnah has helped in the past, hasn't it?

    Now, I'm aware you've called me an "over-educated moron" and "idiot," etc., but if you can help me understand how "polls," plural, equates to your one yahoo poll (I won't bother), I'd sure be grateful. I'd also be grateful if you can tell me how your one poll helps support your view, since it shows Obama at an electoral lead of 263 to 242, a popular lead of 58% to 42%, and undecided voters moving to Obama:

    Yikes! Your source is, uh, just a leftist rag, now, too, buddy?

    Now, please ignore every other poll in the land, to include Real Clear (itself containing, what a dozen national polls), Rasmussen Reports (known to be a commie rag, to be sure), Quinnipiac, and other fly-by-night Leninist cells.

    You want some popcorn for that movie playing in front of your eyes? :D
     
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  16. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #316
    You need some popcorn Tae Kwon Do

    It's 48% (47.9%) Obama to 44% (43.7%) for McCain. I have seen no changes this week. Look close at the poll hi karate, many state are less than 4%. What the +/- of the poll, ummm.


    Undecided is undecided. The states that are to close to call are to close to call. Lefty

     
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  17. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #317
    LOL - I stand corrected. I breezed through your source, and saw double.

    Now, re-reading your source, it is in fact a simple reposting of Real Clear Politics, so let's go directly to that source. I've no hope you'll stop drooling over your bib long enough to understand this, but what the hell.

    "Trend."

    Real Clear Politics:

    Popular Spread:

    9/18: Obama, +1.9%
    9/19: Obama, +1.9%
    9/20: Obama, +2.3%
    9/21: Obama, +2.2%
    9/22: Obama, +2.7%
    9/23: Obama, +2.3%
    9/24: Obama, +1.9%
    9/25: Obama, +3.3%
    9/26: Obama, +4.2%


    Electoral College Spread:

    9/14: McCain, +14
    9/21: Obama, +13
    9/22: Obama, +30
    9/23: Obama, +30
    9/24: Obama, +22
    9/25: Obama, +54
    9/26: Obama, +65

    Now, yes, the popular vote is likely within the margin of error (at least all but the last couple of days, possibly - I haven't seen the sampling methodology so I don't know what the margin of error is), though Obama's star is clearly rising.

    Please revisit the conversation had with Rob, on the electoral college. You will try to remember it is the electoral college that actually elects the Prez, right?

    From a nadir of -20, to +65 for Obama in the electoral college - can you see a trend, there, or would you like it broken down further? Can you see that this is your source, and it is the source I earlier used, one you named "lefty" media?

    A final note, Biz. You've seemingly sought to make your sense of worth grow today by calling me any number of offensive names, and continue with your infantile blabber here. I'd suggest you drop the sandbox giddiness, and try to return to speaking without the use of these epithets.
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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    #318
    Ummm Yea break it down further if you must. I would not put weight in any of the states that are for Obama or McCain. Take North Carolina for instance, less than three % separate Obama and McCain but yet its projected as a McCain state. I don't think you can count that as a McCain State.
     
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  19. jkjazz

    jkjazz Peon

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    #319
    You crack me up! ;)

    Now don't get pissed Northpoint. He's just funny, that's all.
     
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  20. northpointaiki

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    #320
    Yeah, I thought so, too. Until Mrs. Marple, my 1st grade teacher, told guys like Biz to stop doing what he's doing now, kinda like blowing spit bubbles, lighting farts, for laughs. :D

    I also find stuff like this really hysterical:

     
    northpointaiki, Sep 27, 2008 IP