The movie of Geert Wilders, what to expect of it and what do you fear?

I have sent a letter to liveleak asked them to remove the movie, I know it will not make them to remove but ....

 

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/969420.html

Now what impresses me is that he has called for the unification of Jews and Christians, a thing I have repeatedly emphasized on similar threads

 

The "prophet" Muhammad is considered by Muslims the perfect man. If the "prophet" Muhamad is the primary example of human behavior, the more a mulsim is like him the better off he is. The "prophet" Muhamad personally beheaded over 600 members of a Jewish tribe, after he defeated them.
So if the "prophet" did that stuff, they think that is the right way to behave.
They just follow the example of their prophet.

 

Just watched the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P6Upxmm890

Ahmadenijad himself said smiling: "... Islam will conquer what? It will conquer all the mountain tops of the world."

Some muslims say: "There are only a few bad apples among us." Yea, But the bad thing is that those are the leaders of many more muslims.


These guys are dreaming of ruling the world as they did during the dark ages.

 

Found on the website of Cnn.com

 

lol...thats funny, in a sad way.

OH SNAP, I never thought about that.

WWMD?

Behead.

 

you are referring to Bani Qurayza, the punishment they got that day was from their own Torah, in fact, if Muslims followed their Torah 100% then women and children should got killed too, but since killing women and children is not allowed in Islam they did not,

even in Bible and in cases of near cities like in Bani Qurayza case, bible says: ""save alive nothing that breatheth" (Deuteronomy 20:16)"

I think you did not do any research about this, I encourage you to do so before you repeat whatever you hear from islamophobes,

Bani Qurayza agreed to let Sa'ad ibn Mua'dh decide their fate, because they knew he would be fair, Sa'ad ibn Mua'dh judged that the men get killed.

 

Could you please point out the source, from a neutral website? Please state the background of the conflict as well... Did this event actually occur, if it did, why the war was fought, what was the scenario... I'd like to know more...

The Pagans of Mecca were the Prophet's worst enemies, who had killed hundreds of faithful, and tortured many more... But when our beloved Prophet conquered Mecca, it was without shedding a single drop of blood, and he forgave all his enemies...

I suggest you watch a movie "The Message". That would give you more understanding of Islam, how it grew, under what sort of circumstances... The entire history of Islam.

Don't be so quick to judge Muslims, or the Prophet...

 

What is the story? Can you tell me more? What had happened?

 

there are many sources about it online you can do a search for "Bani Qurayza" there is muslim and non-muslim sources, I recommend you to read both and also unbiased sources, including this one by Jewish people converted to Islam:

http://www.jews-for-allah.org/jewish-mythson-islam/muhammad_900_jews_notkilled.htm

I also recommend this link that has more info: http://www.mereislam.info/2006/06/bani-qurayza-marriage-at-puberty-and.html

 

Why these people don't dare to post a video about Holocaust for example "Fake Holocaust" or
"Hitler the Heroe of Century"

well just for freedom of speech

 

But although Wilders has made this movie with some of the "evil" pieces of the Quran, also the Bible has some of those parts.

 

Many Muslims tend to cite the violence in the bible.

Why don't you cite for example the violence and the killings Jesus has ordered???

Again and again you don't want to accept the truth. If Muhammad is the perfect example why wasting time studying for example? And why going fantacal about Meca - a peace of land like many others if fate is the most important and the material things are secondary of importance?

 

What the hell are you talking about ST12?

 

You have to take over the UK before they remove it.

Remove the truth and shut down freedom of speach ha?

If you don't like liveleak, don't go there very simple.

 

do you want us to believe that what have been shown in this movie is the truth?

 

They did, and the guy is still alive, the pictures are on the internet ......

 

So the muslims who spoke in it are fake or something ...?

 

5 Random men represent Islam now? No, only Muhammed.

 

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The first problem is that this verse gives the authority to every Muslim to kill someone for manslaughter or corruption in the land.

The second problem is that no Muslim has ever given a strict definition for "corruption in the land." It's the catch all "get out of hell free" card that allows any Muslim to kill anyone who does anything contrary to Islam.

In the Bible the command to kill someone was given to the authorities that God had established. "Moses did it so I can, too" was as idiotic then as it is now in any civilized society. There is an established system of authority that is allowed to execute punishments. Moses was in charge of the army. Nowhere does the Bible give the authority to all people to punish others. Must less kill them.

"Muhammad did it so I can, too" is perfectly valid in Islam. If any Muslim sees someone "corrupting the land" they are given the authority to kill that person. There's no requirement for taking them to court and having some sort of trial with witnesses.

Even in Salem every witch was found guilty in a trial of their peers. No one was forced to live there. The people were not going across the country hunting for witches.

Same during the Inquisition. There were trials. No citizen had the right to carry out a punishment. They had to take them to the court.

You may not have liked the laws but it was never personal vengence as Islam teaches.