If it was like that, why I asked for identity of arguing person. Islam asks their followers to do research, rather than believing religious Hereditariness.
So why do you dismiss and fail to address the fact that the quran states, quite clearly, that the sun sets in a "muddy spring" when that if patently not the case? Like i said, when the quran gets something right you see it as a testament to it's overall accuracy and when it gets something monumentally wrong you claim it's out of context. You are being very selective, and ultimately intellectually dishonest.
Well Quran never say anything wrong, And we dont say Quran verses are out of context, but its you just cutting and pasting half verses without considering the whole context of Surah. thats why I said you are taking it without context..
As I mentioned above that you have not red that article carefully. Many of questions are answered in Comments too, with reference to Quran itself.
So in what context would the claim that the sun sets in a muddy spring be correct? This is the trouble you find yourself in when you start with the conclusion that a book is infallible and then seek to rationalise things that are patently incorrect. it's quite tiring have to drag answers out of the religious like this.
Why dont you just go to some Islamic forums to ask critical questions. A lot of scholars will tell you about it deeply Actually Im having vocabulary problem too. So I cant explain it deeply. BTW so far no one has proved Infallibility in Quran. The general phenomena about ethicist is this, That they just pick one thing, sometimes half or sometimes without context. But it doesnt mean that Islam cant answer it. frankly I cant because of language problem.
This is your premise, not your conclusion. Sure, all the bad stuff (and there's quite a lot) is "out of context". This is probably also "out of context", right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPfYCLNJyBU "this (quran) chapter sentences the jews to extermination" (Hamas TV). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKeAVBYAbn0 "The resurrection will not take place until the muslims fight the jews, and kill them" (Palestinian TV). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcjpTyflYmM - 1:10 - "The judgement day will not come before the jew and the Muslim fight". Egyptian TV. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL0C2QvqIlo - This is a classic. Host: "We have a girl, a TRUE MUSLIM" girl: "the jews are sons of apes and pigs, the quran says that" Host: "May allah praise you, well said". (Children show, Saudi Arabia TV station broadcast to the whole Arab world). "out of context".....
because i'm asking you. I understand that it's unlikely that you will use your own brain to think about it and instead want me to ask someone else what it is you think. Like i said, this is the problems you face when you start with a premise and then have to rationalise it.
I have not seen or listen such words in Quran so far. It might be perception of one person or propaganda. Quran ask Muslim to respect all Religions and Their followers. Quran ask Muslims to to respect all Prohpets (PBUH) and their followers. Because if Muslim will not respect them. They will not Respect Muslims' God (Allah). Which is really unbearable for a Muslim.
Its just your perception, I study in uni and hardly no single day pass without discussion at Islam among students. I told you the main reason the language problem. If I will explain in poor language you will understand wrongly and result will not effective. Its seems to me that you fear to go to some good Scholars because they can answer you & if you really plan to go at other Islamic forum then invite my there too. I want to see your discussion.
It's strange how your English seems to be adequate in every other situation other than when you are asked to explain how an infallible book can state an obvious falsehood. it's almost as if you are using it as a cop out in order to get out of answering, which is understandable. If i believed something which i found hard to rationalise and defend id probably be a spineless chicken too.
If you people are so right on your argument tell me why people are still migrating from other religion to Islam? Has anybody forced them? In USA, UK, Australia migration rate is increasing day by day, have you ever though why? what they have found in Islam? If you wanna know the answer go through the Quran, hope you will find it.
I say what I always say: This is an abuse and twisting of science, made for those who know nothing about science, and lack scientific thinking, like yourself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio Do you see Mekkah and the Kaaba there? I don't. Do you even know what is an irrational number? (something that I knew when I was 12)? clearly not, otherwise you would have noticed the bullshit. This junk appears only on Islamic sites, and not on a single respectful scientific / western site. It is rubbish.
In 1900 there were 100,000 muslims in western europe and almost none in the USA. Today there are 60,000,000 muslims in western Europe and something like 10 million in the USA. People who convert from other religions to Islam - is a negligible minority not worth a sentence. maybe 0.001%, tops. Muslims are feeling the countries of Islam. Even moderate Islamic country of Turkey experienced an emigration wave of 8 million turks in the last 15 years! This is the true world trend. So stop talkin about 0.001%, start talking about 99.999%.
The fact is that there are very few people that are any thing more than nominally Muslim in the US. I meet many here that came from countries controlled by Islam but they don't follow the do's and don't's of the Islam system. I ask how many of the people back home are devout to Mohamed's system and they always answer that very few do but close to 100% are counted as Muslim. In those countries, I wouldn't be surprised if only 10% were followers of Islam. I have read the Quran and it struck me as a step backward from the progression seen in the Bible, it lacked a "ring of truth", and it also struck me as another writing by a man that made himself the focal point of a religion.