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The koran says that israel belongs to the jews

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by alaska88, Jul 11, 2007.

  1. awiekupo

    awiekupo Peon

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    #61
    This thread will eventually lead to more sensitive issue/debate between one religious and another.. Lets live in harmony.. I personally think thread like this should not be discussed in DP as it contain sensitive issue or might hurt other people feeling.. Not to say its wrong to discuss, I merely think that it is inappropriate to discuss it here since we ourselves is not that knowledgeable when it come to this kind of thing.. Better be safe than making an enemy just because of our lack of info/knowledge in certain aspect of faith..

    Respect one another and we all can live in harmony..

    Cheers
    Sha
     
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  2. WebdevHowto

    WebdevHowto Peon

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    #62
    In a perfect world we would all live in harmony. In my opinion we should debate those things that are "sensitive" in forums like this so that we can all benefit from learning about the beliefs of others. I would rather see someone's feelings get hurt on a forum then to see bloodshed in the street because people kept their head in the sand.
     
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  3. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #63
    This my friend is very true. You cannot learn anything if you don't allow those who are not likeminded to voice themselves.
     
    Blogmaster, Jul 19, 2007 IP
  4. Frenkie

    Frenkie Banned

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    #64
    It looks as if you are just avoiding the parts that you can't awnser. I posted a link to the IDF going into Gaza and you just ignore it. Also you still havent awnsered me, when I asked for a source on your claim "This caused Arabs to move in and establish a permanant residence".

    Once you do, I'll continue with the rest of your posts.
     
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  5. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #65
    Still haven't answered my questions.
    Read and learn:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
     
    DevilHellz, Jul 19, 2007 IP
  6. Frenkie

    Frenkie Banned

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    #66
    Your the one that needs to learn, its right in front of you. The first line on the article "Zionism is an international political movement that supports a homeland for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel."

    They will kill, bomb, torture and do whatever it takes to do so.
     
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  7. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #67
    I suppose you seem to mistake Zionist movement with the Hamas and the other gangs ? Because surely Zionists bomb people, torture poor palestinians, eat their babies and rape their women. It's the bad, bad Zionists who destroyed things here.
    Still haven't answered my questions.
     
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  8. Frenkie

    Frenkie Banned

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    #68
    Yes. Incase you didn't know Israel has legalized torture, and uses chemical weapons on civillians, dont reply saying hamas this, hamas that. We're not talking about hamas, your just creating a smokescreen to disguise your own problems.
     
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  9. qwestcommunications

    qwestcommunications Notable Member

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    #69
    Look, no one has a right to any land. Its a lot of bullshit if Jews believe they have a "right" to any land.
     
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  10. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #70
    Back up your statements with links to sources. Don't just make foolish assumptions with nothing to back that up.
    When did exactly torture was legalized by Israel ?
    When did Israel use chemical weapons on civilians ?
    I am not surprised you say such things, though, since i can see you are from Bosnia, antisemitism there is quite common there.
    Still haven't answered my previous questions, btw.
     
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  11. Frenkie

    Frenkie Banned

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    #71
    Chemical weapons: h**p://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/777549.html

    Torture: h*tp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/637293.stm

    h**p://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1672786.stm

    Now that ive provided sources you will probally say something like "But hamas! Hamas! they blow people up!".

    By the way, here is a link to the meaning of the word anti-semitism

    h**p://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anti-semitism

    "discrimination against or prejudice or hostility toward Jews."

    I must of missed the part where it mentioned Israel.
     
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  12. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #72
    You said:
    Israel attacked Hizbollah targets with phosphorus shells. As far as i know, attacking Hizbollah is not attacking innocent civilians. Of course, some innocent get hurt, but that is the cost of war - unfortunately.

    Regarding torture. Is it news for you that ANY country is torturing suspects of serious crimes ? Do you think Hizbollah didn't torture the kidnapped soldiers ? Again, you stated torture towards innocent civilians, which is simply not true. We don't go out on the street, pick a random palestinian and torture him for no reason.
     
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  13. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #73
    Of course innocents get hurt, especially when hezbollah and hamas hide behind them...

    http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=11990
    http://mikesamerica.blogspot.com/2006/07/bloody-sunday-hezbollah-causes-deaths.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aur_DmTIw70

    And my personal favorite:

    http://www.laughingatislam.com/hezbollah.html

    These are just some examples of what google returned in my search. If you want more sources (some real, some are satire) then check it out yourself:
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...nnocent+children+and+women&btnG=Google+Search
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #74
    It's only bullshit if Jews are involved..:rolleyes:

    So it is ok for Muslims to lay claim to land that they stole by force? I'm not sure I understand the one sided logic here..
     
    Mia, Jul 19, 2007 IP
  15. Frenkie

    Frenkie Banned

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    #75
    Please elabourate, source?
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #76
    Stop wasting my time with this nonsense...

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  17. Frenkie

    Frenkie Banned

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    #77
    Please provide a source, not a picture, even i could of made that.
     
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  18. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #78
    Still haven't answered my questions, Frenkie.
    Running away, are we ?
     
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  19. Frenkie

    Frenkie Banned

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    #79
    I've actually awnsered that. Zionists are made up from beliefs that they get to keep occupieing land which isnt there, a real jew would not do this.
     
    Frenkie, Jul 19, 2007 IP
  20. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #80
    What would a real Jew do ?
    Are you a real Jew to speak in their name ? Or are you a fake Jew ?
    Or, better yet, are you Jewish at all ?
    Riiight.
     
    DevilHellz, Jul 19, 2007 IP