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The Independence of Kosovo !?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by 0lgi, Feb 16, 2008.

  1. 0lgi

    0lgi Notable Member

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    #61
    Please Vlad , why are you deviating from the main topic which is Kosovo :) ?

    Or you don't have what else to write ?

    Cheers !
     
    0lgi, Feb 18, 2008 IP
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    leet Notable Member

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    #62
    I'm a proud citizen of Republic of Turkey. Ottomans did some things I don't approve so I can't say I respect them as much as most Turkish people do (I'm a liberal), although I have great respect to them. But then again, when someone talks nonsense about Ottomans, and talks of completely inaccurate things, I of course will defend Ottomans.

    See "It was succeeded by the Republic of Turkey, which was officially proclaimed in 1923." Get what it means? It means anything happened before 1923 was completely Ottomans' politics' results and puts me under responsibility in NO way. Ottoman Empire and Turkey are two way too different things.

    And also, no Ottoman Empire was not "Turkish", again, learn to understand what you read "The Ottoman Empire was a multi-ethnic and multi-religious Turkish-ruled state."
     
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  3. 0lgi

    0lgi Notable Member

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    #63
    Nobody is discriminating Serbs in Kosovo.

    If you have heard on the news , PM of Kosovo gave to a Serbian family some donations in order to improve their way of living and they thanked him

    Im not saying that he has done a lot for them but at least he is taking them in consideration
     
    0lgi, Feb 18, 2008 IP
  4. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #64
    Anyhow, Leet. Everyone knows that the Ottomans are Turkish, otherwise where would "the proclaimed in 1923 Republic of Turkey" come from?

    Its just as it was Soviet Union and now its is Russia, same damn thing, just playing with different words.
     
    N_F_S, Feb 18, 2008 IP
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #65
    That is of no doubt.

    Anyway, back on topic, who was that Slovenian dude who brought up Kosovo topic some while ago, he could contribute to this thread.. Damn what was the name :eek:
     
    LeoSeo, Feb 18, 2008 IP
  6. LoCo

    LoCo Well-Known Member

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    #66
    Hello guys a few Updates to the Topic

    UN meeting on behalf of Kosovo, Serbian Prez Tadic stated that he is not accepting indipendences of Kosovo, Russian Federation and China Back it up.

    I`ve watched it on serbian television but i must admit i have not fully seen it, just watched serbian/russian/china statement
     
    LoCo, Feb 18, 2008 IP
  7. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #67
    I can say that Spain and Cyprus denied it too. I guess its obvious why they denied it, right? :) Not making it a "special situation" as EU likes to say.
     
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  8. _vlada_

    _vlada_ Peon

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    #68
    Tractor? :) You are talking about ONE tractor?
    And
    What about all of those factories, airports, hospitals? What about farmers land? What about mining fields? What about schools, university? Who build that?


    Half of ministers are ex terrorists. You must understand that he is PM, at first place, in a sake of peace. To convert world recognized terrorist organization known as UCK into regular army.

    Do you know who is running oil business there? He. What is average salary there? And how much he own? How much own those Heroes?

    And few people using emotions of ordinary people to make "elite" rich... Other to sit tight and to expect better life.. soon..




    Read what world say...

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thr...tart=0&edition=2&ttl=20080218212545#paginator

    Those that support "NEW BORNED KOSOVO" (as is written there, in Pristina)


    Anyway, Olgi, I think you are great guy, understanding, and, I do not want to spoil celebration, so I am off this topic.

    Maybe we can make business together on forums :)

    Have nice day!
     
    _vlada_, Feb 18, 2008 IP
  9. iul

    iul Well-Known Member

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    #69
    Romania denied it too
     
    iul, Feb 18, 2008 IP
  10. speed100

    speed100 Peon

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    #70
    Olgi,you are "news" baby. You are only feed by what you see on TV. You should live in some of the ex YU countries to understand this.
    Kosovo was always part of Serbia and it always will be. This thing is going straight to war. Declaring independence by a bunch of smugglers is crazy. More crazy than this is supporting this independence by someone who has no idea what hes doing.
     
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    0lgi Notable Member

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    #71
    Yes speed100 , you are right , Kosovo was part of Serbia and it will always be but as an independent country now ;)

    I would strongly recommend you to read the whole history of the Balkans and with the hope that you will be able to give a better reasonable explanation to all what you write

    Cheers !
     
    0lgi, Feb 18, 2008 IP
  12. speed100

    speed100 Peon

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    #72
    Dude, I'm Macedonian and i know my history. You need to go to Kosovo and see what they going to do to you there. I bet you will lose your shoes in the first 10 min of your stay. (I'm serious)
    And whats up with the smiley? You think this is fun? Do you really think that Kosovo independence is good thing?
    No wonder the Albanian mafia is one of the strongest organization when there is bunch of non educated fools supporting them and calling them freedom fighters.
     
    speed100, Feb 19, 2008 IP
  13. 0lgi

    0lgi Notable Member

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    #73
    ILMI

    speed100 , are you sure for those 10 min shoes bet ?

    I havent been in Kosovo but I know many many many from Kosovo and something like that is just a lie from your part! I have also been in Macedonia and Im not saying anything against them because its not on my nature to make up things , to lie as you are doing!

    Albanian Mafia is one of the strongest organization? Ok , so whats that related with our topic now ?

    My friend corruption is something else and its inevitable in many countries.

    speed100 , I would really be interested to know the reason why you left the Balkans? Or did someone stole your shoes :)

    Cheers

    Olgi
     
    0lgi, Feb 19, 2008 IP
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    Algert Well-Known Member

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    #74
    speed100 you know nothing about kosovo, its history and about their true origins. Corruptions as Olgi said is not only Kosovos problem but it is in every country. Independence was the best choice and an inevitable thing after all the tortures that the people there had to suffer.
     
    Algert, Feb 19, 2008 IP
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    brokerdedi Banned

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    speed100 Peon

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    #76
    You are funny. You think that you know things just by eating what they serve you in the news.
    Why do you think it's 90% muslims in Kosovo? They all moved from Albania to Kosovo and started making 10 kids each family,but they can't even support one. They all have "big Albania" in their mind with parts of Serbia,Macedonia and Greece. This is impossible for you to swallow.
    You've been to Macedonia? LoL,you don't even know where is Macedonia.
     
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    brokerdedi Banned

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    #77
    Serbs get support from the least expected corner, Hollywood.

    http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2008/01/this-george-gets-it.html
    http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2008/01/hollywood-support-grows.html

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1203343710106&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
     
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  18. Algert

    Algert Well-Known Member

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    #78
    speed100, I don't know what kind of history have you learned, but Kosovo is populated by ETHNIC ALBANIANS since ancient times(one of the most ancient population in the world with the Greeks), and if it comes to Macedonia it is recognized by Greeks as their own name and I personally agree with them, Macedonia does not even have a name as a state. Did you know that 30% of your state is an Albanian population?

    Kosovo was an Albanian province called Dardania. Since the Paris conference in 18 January 1919 Albania was divided in many nations, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia and Greece. This was an injustice done to Albanians. But as I see things are changing now.
     
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    speed100 Peon

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    #79
    You clearly have mistaken SciFi books with history books. Double check your sources and if you still think the same than triple check.
     
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    Algert Well-Known Member

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    #80
    speed100 don't you have anything else to say ?
    ah I forgot....FYROM(Federal Yugoslavia's Republic Of Macedonia) that is what they call you .(when you get the real name as a state then you can talk about history)
     
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