The Independence of Kosovo !?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by 0lgi, Feb 16, 2008.

  1. _vlada_

    _vlada_ Peon

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    #201
    Yeah, greetings from me, too.

    Strange how you got that idea - "destroy"...

    Yes, Serbs are responsible. That words give Albanians on Kosovo reason to live and die. Others will be rich. Now Kosovo will be Switzerland and new generation can sacrifice their lives for parts of Montenegro, Greece, Serbia and Italy if they manage.


    Forget it. Higher mathematics. Albanians cleansed Kosovo, thats point.


    Lets keep on this level:

    Hero: Aziz Kelmendi

    Father of nation: Enver Hoxha

    Superman: Hashim Tha%C3%A7i - nice biography, btw.

    Too bad I am in ages now - saw a lot. And still got memory.


    Albania in time of Enver - what to say. North Korea is Monte Carlo for that country. Bicycle was luxury. Religion forbidden.

    Well, through history there was lots of joy in that moment like
    in Croatia in WWII by this guys. Killing Serbs here and that, and people cant forget. You are agreed on that. Never forget.


    Now we see this:

    [​IMG].

    Talking about ethnic borders - cant see any difference between Sadam, Milosevic and many here thinking.


    I wish all people living there will be prosperitive, rich and healthy... Will they?


    p.s.

    Srbija do Tokija - because Red Star won World Championship in soccer there. After winning Championship League in 1991. That is why that stayed. Not because breeding and dying.
     
    _vlada_, Mar 11, 2008 IP
  2. 0lgi

    0lgi Notable Member

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    #202
    Some points of your long post are true Vlada , Albania in time of Comunism was bad. Well , every country under dictature is bad in my opinion

    We got the independence , so we move on , thats the point of life!

    Also ,

    Who said Aziz Kelmendi was a hero!?
    Enver Hoxha , Father of Nation!? - Yeah of course , even if I would be the one and only leader in a country would put such titles to myself
    Hashim Thachi - Superman !? come on

    Father of Nation is remembered and will always be just one person , Gjergj Kastriot Skenderbeu

    [​IMG]
     
    0lgi, Mar 11, 2008 IP
  3. _vlada_

    _vlada_ Peon

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    #203
    Hello 0lgi,


    I know that Enver Hoxa is not father. But he was. Thats he liked to hear. And that was major thought of Albania then. Major. So that is changing and evolving in time and space.


    Point of my posts is that truth is somewhere between. But you are onlyone here that want to Talk.

    And most important truth is that nothing is important if I cant pay medicines for my ill child. Or I do not have anything to eat. That is story of Kosovo. Sorrow. They choose that. For a idea of Kosovo as country.


    Lets see how Serbia was bad to them. Was they bad to Serbia, too?

    In this moment they have "freedom", they have "possibilities". They have big army base of NATO. But, now they see it like friendly, great situation. Clinton is now father of nation. He is Idol. Almost God. He is savior.


    For me, same story. It is occupation. But looks like they are programed to speak as one. That is how their elite want their nation works.


    While ordinary people celebrating (what?) where is perspective...


    To be clear: I do not need Kosovo as so many people I know. I do not have any kind of nice emotion to people of Kosovo. I have emotion to Serbs still living there, to art and history related to Kosovo.

    I can blame them more than they can blame me. I can write all the night why and when.

    All the time their life was in their hands. But they choose opposite.

    We shall see how now they will continue.

     
    _vlada_, Mar 11, 2008 IP
  4. hexinator

    hexinator Peon

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    #204
    For your surprise, I'm very good in Maths ;). So, source please?

    Aziz Kelmendi: So what, he killed 4 people and went to jail. I've never heard of him but that's what it says in your article.

    Enver Hoxha: no one is proud of that. Unlike you guys, who are proud with Seselj.

    Hashim Thaqi: I am not aware of him being accused for that. And on top of the article it says that it needs citation and sources. regarding the trial from serbia, no wonder, they even trialed Wesley Clark :D

    And on top of this, none of those you mentioned were considered International War Criminals [except from Serbia], so comparing them with your Heroes: Milosevic, Mladic, Karadzic, Seselj and moany more whose total score is 300,000+ killed and massacred including women and kids, I think is senseless.

    Oh, I'm sorry for you guys. Everyone is after you. Everybody hates the serbs. I wouldn't like to be in your shoes.

    I usually stay away from pointing at Youtube but This is hilarious: video says it all
     
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  5. Scoty

    Scoty Active Member

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    #205
    I'm against it.
    I would like to see full independance for the six Celtic nations, the Basque region, Catalonia, Palestine(that is, I'd like to see them have their stolen land back)
    but Kosovo...well Israel and UAE seem to be puppet nations for UK/US (sorry if you're from one of these I don't mean to offend this is just how I and many I know see it) and when Kosovo was said to be free it was exactly UK and US who were being thanked, so I don't trust them.

    Therefor I don't recognise Kosovo as a legitimate nation.

    This is my personal opinion, everyone is entitled to their own
     
    Scoty, Mar 12, 2008 IP
  6. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #206
    I saw a funny cartoon a few days ago on the Russian channel NTV.

    There was G Bush arriving in Moscow with Kosovo passport in hands, and he couldnt go through the checking (was told there is no such country:)). Along him there was another guy with Abkhazian* passport and he got through....:) Kind of explains it all.

    *Abkhazia is after independence as well, Russia recognizes it, and the rest of the world do not recognize it yet.
     
    N_F_S, Mar 12, 2008 IP
  7. _vlada_

    _vlada_ Peon

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    #207
    :D

    Albanians started much earlier their fight. They raped children and womans. They killed whole families. They performed ethnic cleansing for 30 years.


    When I lived in Pristina Albanians couldn't throw trash in cans but they throw trough windows of their apartment.

    They could hate anything but at the end they hated themselfs. It was their trash. Under their apartments.



    Now, enjoy freedom. Enjoy 5000euros monthly salary, and new BMW (no work and driving stolen cars from here and europe). Clinton will give them that. All americans are in so big love with Kosovo. Only love for them are Kosovars.


    They are 8 years free. And nothing changed... Serbia is still paying their bills. And they, fantastic nation, burning churches from 14 century into ashes. Because they have no history. No words for that.


    Most uneducated nation in whole Europe are they. But it was their idea, program, sacrifice and agenda. It was price for freedom.


    I bet they will hate Eulex in few months. Everytime is something bad and against them and they are just innocent and peacefully sitting.



    btw Your links and facts are funny and full of hate and anger which is strange.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:War_crimes_in_former_Yugoslavia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War#Casualties


    They had Enver and we had Seselj... yeah. Thank God.
     
    _vlada_, Mar 13, 2008 IP
  8. hexinator

    hexinator Peon

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    #208
    There you go Vlada, this is the real you. That's right let it out, all your hatred.

    I provide you facts, and in return you provide your personal racist opinion. This is proving the statement right, for which I received bad rep from you :p.

    Say it out loud: All albanians deserve to die. They are like monkeys. Your science academy in Belgrade even has a book in which it says Albanians did not fully evolve and some of them still have tails. I must emphasize it again, the book is from the Science Academy of Belgrade. Hats off. If you really learn from those kind of books then I don't know what to say, but your education is kind of UNIQUE. Maybe that's why you guys know everything how it realy is and are not affected by the biased media and the rest of the world.
    On the other hand, I've read a book from Vuk Draskovic [ex-Serbian Minister of Foreign Affairs], "Knives", which is about strategies of ethnic cleansing towards Albanians. If you don't trust me, read it.

    In 1991 I was thrown out of School just like all other Albanian students, just because we were Albanians. The Serbian government closed all Albanian schools (maybe for the reason to later use the argument of "albanians are uneducated"). We had to learn in basements, hiding from the Serbian Police.
    My father and all other Albanians were fired from their jobs, again, just because they were Albanians, yet we survived. 2000 University students were poisoned when poison was put in the water-tubes that supplied the dormitories, from the government. If you really lived in Kosovo as you say, then you must know these.

    FYI, the links you provided show all massacres made by the Serbian army. I don't know what you wanted to achieve with it. Oh, maybe you posted them because you are proud of that. hmm.
     
    hexinator, Mar 15, 2008 IP
  9. Pedja307

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    #209
    Only Skenderbeu? But what about Lekë Dukagjini (and Kanuni)? :rolleyes:
     
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    0lgi Notable Member

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    #210
    Pedja , seriously I see that you just live , dream , breathe for Kosovo to be Serbian , move on , its something of the past now.

    If you dont have what to do then i can hire you to do some work for me , I have many works so if you are interested PM me!

    Cheers

    Olgi
     
    0lgi, Apr 8, 2008 IP
  11. Pedja307

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    #211
    You haven't answered my question. What do you have to say about Kanuni? Do you still live by that laws...? :rolleyes:

    Don't worry for me business... I already earn monthly more then you can earn for a year in Albania (with good job)... :)
     
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  12. guru-seo

    guru-seo Peon

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    #212
    Easy there cowboy! Do you have a bigger penis too?
     
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    #213
    There is no such book. Somebody lied you or you are liar.

    Lie again. That book has nothing about Albanians...
     
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    #214
    after what serbs done to poor kosovo people their was no wonder they wanted freedom.
     
    Mr_2, Apr 9, 2008 IP
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    #215
    There is no such thing as "Kosovo people", which shows that you know nothing about Kosovo.
     
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  16. 0lgi

    0lgi Notable Member

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    #216
    Mr_2 , no need to discuss anymore , this guy has a lot of free time in his hands and he thinks he knows everything.

    Pedja , this is a senseless discussion seriously because you have your opinion and I have mine and we will never change each other's opinion.

    You said that you make in a month what I make in a year right ? Now this is a good challenge but Im afraid you don't know me ...

    Do you still have balls to compete against me on a 1 vs 1 challenge !? Prove it that you have more than me and I will give you $10,000 otherwise you give me $1000
     
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  17. hexinator

    hexinator Peon

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    #217
    Go to your public library and look for it. Maybe they removed it because the new generations are ashamed of it :p.


    You probably only watched the movie[which doesn't even come close to what's in the book]. go read the book.
     
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  18. hexinator

    hexinator Peon

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    #218
    This reminds me of...

    "There is no such thing as Israel on our map." -- Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

    C'mon admit it, you wish there were no people in Kosovo, so you could go there, bury a serb and then call it Serbian land. [to non-balkans, Serbs have a theory, "Wherever there is a serbian grave, that is Serbian land]
     
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  19. guru-seo

    guru-seo Peon

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    #219
    Pedja307 - "Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence." This quote from your very own signature describes the Serbian government to the T!
     
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    guru-seo Peon

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    #220
    I would not consider oppression, ethnic cleansing, murder of civilians, rape of women a good thing...would you?
     
    guru-seo, Apr 9, 2008 IP