THE IGNORANCE & STUPIDITY of At(heist)s & Ag(nostic)s

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    THE IGNORANCE & STUPIDITY

    of At(heist)s & Ag(nostic)s




    Someone has rightly concluded that ‘Higher Education’ is “the spring board to Higher Ignorance and Stupidity”. Many a “Christian”, have become the epitome of Agnosticism, while the “lukewarm observers”, have been fiendishly transformed into ‘Atheists R’ Us’, both having spent at least two semesters on the campus of just about any of the so-called “Institutes of Higher Learning”.
    Now, don’t get me wrong, an Education, as well as a ‘Higher Education’ is a good thing to have (I myself, am still paying, financially for one). . .for Earth and the Natural. But when it comes to THE KINGDOM of GOD [THE SPIRITUAL], the only thing ‘Higher Ed’ can do is to better enable one to pronounce some of the words contained in THE NATURAL BOOK (we call it “The Bible”; I call it “THE WORD of GOD”) that TOTALLY Explains EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING, in THE SPIRITUAL REALM.

    Let’s look at some of “the Ignorance and Stupidity” of the “Ats” and “Ags”:

    1. Most “Ats” and “Ags”, begin with the assumption that GOD doesn't Exist (meaning they “don’t believe in GOD”. . .which is “a negative”); but these same “Ats” and “Ags”, cry like a banshee, when “Believers of GOD (and all Spiritual Things), begin with BELIEF in the assumption that “In the beginning, GOD Created the Heavens and the Earth”.

    2. “Ats” and “Ags” alike, will tell you that it is ‘Duty and Obligation’, of the Believer(s) of GOD to prove that HE EXISTS (yet these same “Ats” and “Ags”, cannot, cannot, cannot, Prove, that HE doesn't EXIST which is “a double negative”). And, until recently (less than a year ago), no Believer of GOD had went about to challenge the “Ats” and “Ags”, regarding the very first 10 words in all of Scripture: “In the beginning, GOD Created the Heavens and the Earth”.

    3. “Ats” and “Ags” favorite battle cry is that “you cannot prove ‘a negative’”, yet when faced with THE POSITIVE Statement: “In the beginning, GOD Created the Heavens and the Earth”, “Ats” and “Ags” begin scrambling like roaches when the lights come on, in a pathetic effort to discredit “the Messenger”, all the while they are TOTALLY unable to discredit THE MESSAGE, “In the beginning, GOD Created the Heavens and the Earth”.

    Now, while “Ats” and “Ags” maintain that “you cannot prove a negative”, when face with THE POSITIVE Statement, “In the beginning, GOD Created the Heavens and the Earth”, even if by some slim and remote chance that I, a Believer of GOD, cannot prove it to be Factual, all the “Ats” and “Ags” when presented with THE POSITIVE Statement, CAN IN NO POSSIBLE WAY DISPROVE IT!

    In other words while their flimsy excuse, in times past, has been, “you cannot prove a Negative”, now some of them has thrown up another smoke screen, ‘The Believer of GOD’ has to prove THE POSITIVE Statement, while they, the “Ats” and “Ags”, get this now, “don’t have to prove anything”. . .positive or negative. And here’s where their “Ignorance and Stupidity” takes Center Stage:


    I DIDN'T (Initially) ASK THEM TO “PROVE” ANYTHING...

    . . .JUST TO “DISPROVE” THE POSITIVE STATEMENT
    (Surely the ed-u-ma-kate-ted "fools"
    should be able to Disprove a Positive, huh?):

    “In the beginning, GOD Created the Heavens and the Earth”.




    I ask you “Ats” and “Ags”, since you “can't prove a negative”, and ‘you can't disprove a positive’. . .so what can you do beside display an infinite amount of “Ignorance and Stupidity”???

    BTW, If you're an “At” or an “Ag”, that’s NEGATIVE, and since you cannot prove a Negative, then reason and logic demands that YOU ARE SOMETHING THAT YOU CANNOT PROVE, huh?

    And oh yeah, I can prove that GOD IS by:
    1. HIS (Documented)WORD;
    2. More that 40 (Documented)differents human authors of HIS WORD;
    3. Countless numbers of (Documented)‘first hand experienced’ Witnesses (both for and against HIM)
    4. JESUS CHRIST (of NAZARETH. . .Documented);
    5. 11 (Documented)Drastically Transformed Disciple/Apostles
    6. More than 500 men (not counting women and children) who personally saw (Documented)THE RESURRECTED JESUS CHRIST(that was more than all those who saw the assassinated Presidents Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and Kennedy).
    7. Me, Myself, and I (Documented in THE LAMB’s BOOK of LIFE).
     
    Nehemiah, Mar 27, 2007 IP
  2. CountryBoy

    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    #2
    The Lamb's Book of Life? Are you a mormon?
     
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  3. just-4-teens

    just-4-teens Peon

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    #3
    who cares whether he exists or not.

    if he does then he does a lousy job (he is meant to be almighty and be able to create things etc, but he cant stop a murderer or child abuser :|)
     
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  4. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    No.

    "The Lamb's Book of Life" Revelation 21:27

    Did you not know that JESUS CHRIST is "THE LAMB of GOD that takes away the sins of the World" (John 1:29) ???

    That is why, The Good News ("The GOSPEL") is:
    JESUS CHRIST

    +nothing

    =EVERYTHING!
     
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  5. CountryBoy

    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    I did know that actually - I'm a church going man myself. But religion is a personal choice, not really to be inflicted on people in webmaster forums - we as Christians don't do that sort of thing.
     
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  6. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    Okay.

    But did you know, that 'little lie' that you told yesterday (whenever) is just as vile and bad to GOD, as all those sins that you're pissed off with HIM for not stopping (the way you want HIM to).

    Our forefather Adam, in a Perfect Environment, had only one Commandment to obey, and he couldn't even do that...now are you able to keep 10? And remember when you violate just one Commandment, that disqualifies you from ever keeping any of the others as well as that one, because unless you are as Perfect as GOD, then in GOD'S SIGHT, you are just as messed up as "a murderer" and/or "child abuser".
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    Mmmm. You're preaching to the converted here - like I said, I am a church going Christian already. As long as you live by the old adage do unto others as you wish to be done to you, you'll be okay. I reiterate that your posts, as informative and well-intended as they may be, are not really the sort of thing for a webmaster forum. You might also wish to tone down the font colour and size.
     
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  8. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    I don't know what you "" may or may not do. But answer this question for me, What and where did JESUS CHRIST mean when HE stated the following:
    :D ". . .Go therefore, into all the world, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit..." ???:D

    What part of "the world", is not a part of "webmaster forums"???

    :eek: Are you a Secret Agent "Christian", meaning no one knows you're a "Christian", but you???:eek:
     
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  9. CountryBoy

    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    No, not secret agent Christian - as the hundreds of people in my church will testify :rolleyes:

    I can see you're going to be a barrel of laughs around here.
     
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  10. otherjohn

    otherjohn Peon

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    Nehemiah- Dude, I don't know what your deal is but I think you are approaching this whole thread wrong. Posting in ALL caps and big letters and in a way that you did will definetly not help your cause. I highly suggest you listen to Ray Comforts message at http://www.livingwaters.com/listenwatch.shtml. Might help you tone it down and see some success in your mission.
     
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  11. it career

    it career Notable Member

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    #11
    How do you know you will go to heaven?
    what is the difference between you and a person who has killed dozens but accepted Jesus as Saviour ?
    What if you have to share room with a serial killer in heaven?
    since according to you guys who ever accepts Jesus as Saviour will go to heaven
    I would prefer staying in hell with my friends than going to heaven where people are running with the holy book and parroting from it but never trying to practice/implement it in their life.
    By the way try posting only in plain text format.
     
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  12. sandossu

    sandossu Guest

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    thanks for making me stupid and ignorant for not believing in a god from a book. I should return the compliment and say you're a fanatic and naive ;)
     
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    otherjohn Peon

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    Hi it_career,
    you really have to look at what defines acceptance of Jesus. To accept him as your Saviour is also to repent of your sins, and turn away from those actions, and to give Jesus rule over your life and to preform his will over yours.

    I would be proud to stand next to a serial killer in heaven, because God's love is so great that he gave even that killer a chance to get there. And in order for that Killer to get there, he had to change his ways, repent and accept the Lord as his King over his life.

    According to the Word of God, we are all sinners, everyone. And that all sins are just as bad as the other in the Lords eyes. So my sins are as bad as the killers sins. And because of that truth, I count it as a great thing that God would let someone like me be forgiven for my sins.

    Besides, those who you would suspect would be "running around with the holy book and parroting from it" may not be in heaven themselves, and might just be where you claim you would rather be :)
     
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    Forgive me if I am wrong (I am one of the ignorant ones as you call them), but doesn't your religion teach that you should not judge others too harshly? I agree with Sandossu that just because I don't believe in a God from a book does not make me ignorant and stupid. I think it's human nature to question things, I do not like to follow blindly. I just wish people would realize that calling people stupid just because they don't believe EXACTLY what you do is disrespectful, and I believe, totally defeats the purpose of religion in the first place. How come in our society today, all you hear is about acceptance of others, but people seem to forget that when it comes to religion?
     
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  15. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    #15

    Since I'm not 'Religious' and have NO "
    religion", I can't answer that question.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    LOL. You are nuts.

    The end.



     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    The story of Adam and Eve is a myth, a known truth....if you look at the original hebrew, it is adama, which means "earth creature"...it is not a human male named adam...gotta love it when the english gets it wrong.
     
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  18. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    Well:cool:, sometimes I feel like [it] a nut,:eek:. . .sometimes I don't:D.

    Seriously though, all I am is a LORD-aholic;

    I'm just a FOOL for JESUS CHRIST! (who's fool are you???)
     
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    I think you are the ignorant one, I would rather go to hell and burn forever then believe in your "god". :/
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    He means well. Don't be so cruel - mental illness is a terrible affliction that could happen to us too one day!
     
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