The hosting of your dreams?

Discussion in 'Web Hosting' started by hipromx, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. #1
    Well I've analyzed so many days and weeks all hosting providers (including shared, resellers, vps, dedicated...).

    And I have come with so many questions about it...

    Besides the price, the support, the viability of price-offer (between the features given and the price it costs to the provider to give them), the reliability, the uptime, the features, the content allowed, etc, what would you think will be an all-in-one solution to satisfy all your needs and what are you offering for that kind of service.

    Are cheap hosting packages really woth it, just because they are cheap?
    Are additional features convincing you to take a deal?
    Are special discounts a better opportunity for you?
    Are trial/free services really a must or providers to get clients fast?

    This are just some question to think a little bit.

    What are your opinions?

    Regards, hipromx.
     
    hipromx, Jan 21, 2010 IP
  2. abhijit

    abhijit Notable Member

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    cheap hosting is just to make the new customers....................and reliable...............with hosting features like all other hostings
     
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  3. RonBrown

    RonBrown Well-Known Member

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    That's something you will never really know. Most hosting companies (for the sake of arguement), provide the following services as part of their hosting plan.

    web site servers
    dns service
    ftp service
    database servers
    email service

    Have you any idea what it costs them to operate? What is the spec of the web servers they are using (big cost factor), how many sites run on these servers? At what point is a web server too busy and requires another server to replace it? what about the connections to the internet? Is their network redundant? Do they have hardware firewalls? What network equipment do they use? Who are their transit providers?

    These will vary hugely from company to company.

    Then there is the other services. Cheaper companies provide these services on the same server as your web site which has 2 problems.

    1. Services are competing for resources so nothing is performing at full potential

    2. If the server goes down, everything is down.

    Then you get to redundancy of services. Does the email service have a backup-server available? How many servers do they have "spare" for an emergency? What sort of staff do they employ - fully certified network techs with CCNP don't work for less than $50k. MCSE staff aren't much cheaper.

    The bottom line is you have no idea how much it costs. The qualty of the company's procedures, training, qualification, experience, and planning vary so much. Their hardware, their contingencies, their operating viability, their ability to keep things going when problems occur all vary from company to company.

    We use idependant hardware for every single service. FTP, multiple DNS, multiple Email, databases (clustered with auto-failover), web servers, support servers, stats servers, traffic monitoring. Our networks are fully redundant and self-healing. We use hardware firewalls in HA pairs with IDS and IPS. Every server operates anti-virus and anti-malware, customised OSs for security. Every server and service is monitored 24.7 by our own multi-redundant monitoring service, and we always have spare servers in the racks for emergencies, multiple backup servers (backing up the backups), spare servers in the office, boxes of hard drives, CPUs, RAM, spare power supplies, spare cooling fans, spare motherboards. Our set-upcosts of lot of money to set-up and maintain but the difference is we have 100% network uptime and can recover a "down" server in minutes (for some services) and within a couple of hours for busy web server.

    This is a lot different from the company with a couple of dedicated servers. We can't supply our service at the same cheap price as them but we can provide a reliable service, quick recovery if there is a problem. Most importantly we give customers peace-of-mind because everything just works.

    The fact is, you can't tell from the services being provided how much it really is costing.


    Depends on what you need. If you have a personal site then it doesn't really matter if there is some downtime, or problems, or the staff aren't great.

    If your site make money, then the more money it makes, the more important it is that you find a company who can provide the reliability.

    Some of our customers turn over huge amounts of money - 7 figures per week - even if their traffic needs aren't that large and their sites are tiny (a few MB). They could "fit" everything into a shared hosting plan, but is it worth risking a multi-million pound business with cheap hosting?

    Price isn't an indicator of good hosting, but cheap hosting can never - ever - be consistently excellent. You pay your money and you take your choice.

    Not if you don't need them. Who cares if they offer 100 MySQL databases if you don't use them.

    It isn't about the features being offered but about what you need, not only in terms of features (how many pop accounts, how much diskspace), but things that you can't really measure BEFORE you sign up like reliability, speed, quality of support, abiltiy of the company.

    We often hear people saying they need the extra space for "growth" or if their site "takes off". The average site uses less than 100MB of space and 1GB of transfer. Some sites use more, significantly more, but when we average it all out the actual needs are tiny. If we take the top 20% of sites out of the equation, then these figures drop to 20MB and 0.3GB respectively.

    They might tempt some people.


    Depends on the needs of the company. Free trials may help some people make up their minds, but I suppose that depends on what is being provided. It may work out for shared hosting whereset-up is pretty much automated and doesn't cost the host anything, but I can't see it happening for dedicated servers where there may be substantial hardware costs and set-up time involved.
     
    RonBrown, Jan 22, 2010 IP
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    mentos Prominent Member

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    Are cheap hosting packages really woth it, just because they are cheap?
    Yes as long as it meet my requirement.

    Are additional features convincing you to take a deal?
    Depend on the feature,if i using it then it worth it.

    Are special discounts a better opportunity for you?
    Yes.

    Are trial/free services really a must or providers to get clients fast?
    Yes.
     
    mentos, Jan 22, 2010 IP