The Holocaust Card

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by IsraeI, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #21
    What I cant figure out is why he does that same argument in thread after thread, assuming if enough people agree then something MUST be true? For starters if it WERE valid, it automatically blows his argument in this thread since he's arguing based on what 48% believe. OK... that leaves 52% that don't.

    Also, since he's SO hung up on polls and not the slightest bit anti-semitic... why didnt he start the thread pointing out 52% of Europeans believe the Jews do NOT use the Holocaust as a crutch? C'mon Solar, if you arent anti-semitic, why'd you side with the minority report? I thought numbers were proof?

    Personally his search for truth by opinion poll leaves me baffled. If a million people say 2+2=5... it's still 4 and they're idiots. Truth isnt subject to a vote, and there are lots of morons in the world.

    The other problem with him constantly relying on argument ad populum... if it were valid then the fact that he's the only one here with a red rep pretty much invalidates whatever he posts. After all, he puts so much stock in popular opinion... if everyone agrees he's an idiot then by his own preferred argument, it's a fact.
     
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  2. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #22
    No, I don't believe that.

    Why do you exploit the history Jewish suffering ? Do you have not one bit of decency left?
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Oh, so when you quoted a poll that stated:

    That was really your way of condemning anti-Jewish sentiment? LoL. Kudos!

    Your logic also alows for criticism of supporters of Hamas(you and millions of other Arabs). Terrific! Glad to hear you condemn Hamas!

    Seriously though, I'm keeping this quote framed for LuLz:
    It is even funnier when contrasted against your quote above.
     
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  4. robjones

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    #24
    Feel free to point out where I have, my little jihadist wannabe.
     
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    #25
    How is it off-topic when it is started by you? I'm responding to a statement made by you. Now if you don't want to go there, then simply say so, why using covers?


    Of course it does exist and.. What's the biggest reason after it? Terrorism..

    You really should pay attention mate, your acute reading disorder is getting worse everyday.
    I never said 'All' terrorists follow one religion. I said 'all Islamic' terrorists follow one religion.
     
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  6. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #26
    It was obamanation who carefully changed the topic, I didn't start this, whatever, don't continue with this.

    I quoted the results of the poll because there was an interesting part that was relevant to this thread:

    "Overall, 44% of those surveyed believe it is "probably true" that Jews still talk too much about the Holocaust. "

    "In responding "probably true" to the statement "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust," the 2009 survey found:

    Austria – 55%, up from 54% in 2007
    France – 33%, down from 40 % in 2007
    Germany – 45%, unchanged from 2007
    Hungary – 56%, down from 58% from 2007
    Poland – 55%, down from 58% in 2007
    Spain – 42%, down from 46% in 2007
    The United Kingdom – 20%, down from 28% in 2007 "

    I cannot disagree with this, they have to talk about the holocaust less...it seems it's being exploited, but that's just my opinion.

    I understand that "Jews" is generalizing, but the ADL chose to ask the question with "Jews" so they could later report that people are being anti-semetic...but I don't think the respondents were being anti-semetic when the question "In responding "probably true" to the statement "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust," was asked.
     
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  7. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Hey I understand man. The same way this poll asked it's question:

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    Sure they generalized and used the word Arab, not "Terrorist", but I think what those people were really saying is that they didn't want a terrorist as a neighbor, or more specifically someone like you. Who am I to disagree with that?

    As Rob says, opinions vary, but the fact 2+2=4 is not affected by opinion. The only thing an opinion stating 2+2 != 4 demonstrates is the idiocy of the person presenting it.

    In that spirit, I want to thank you for sharing your opinion. The fact you think 9-11 is an Israeli plot to smear the kind hearted, peace loving Arabs, but distrust of the Jews is a natural and proper byproduct of Israel's actions, says so much about you. /hug
     
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  8. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #28
    I have no idea who did it, never said it's Israel. Your nonsense never stops.
     
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    #29
    LMAO. 9-11 trolling? Really? That's all you got left? Get over it man. Bin Laden is dead, and most of his top henchmen. It puts a smile on my face just thinking about it. I'd say the chances of a guy with an IQ of 80 getting under my skin are about zero, but troll on. I enjoy watching you embarrass yourself.
     
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    #30
    I see you're changing your story, so let me refresh your memory Karim.

     
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  11. IsraeI

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    #31
    I don't think it was bin laden, I think it was someone in the Bush administration, they are brilliant for not getting caught (yet).
     
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    #32
    Its ironic when you use 'they have to' and 'it's just my opinion' in the same line..
     
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    #33
    It's not ironic, every time one criticizes Israel you lose because they bring out the anti-semetic or holocaust card it's crazy, it's got to stop.
     
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    #34
    It is ironic because when you use "They have to stop" and "It has got to stop", you are not simply expressing your opinion, you are demanding.
    And demands are not opinions.

    There is nothing crazy about the genocide of 6 million people.. If 6 million Muslims were slaughtered instead of Jews, you would have been crying day in and day out.
     
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    #35
    If by "bring up" you mean devote countless hours starting threads to bash Israel... sorry, that's anti-antisemitism, and people do NOT have to stop pointing that out. You're an arab and you hate jews. We get it already. No need to start countless new threads about it. Youre like a broken record.
     
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    #36
    It has got to stop in my opinion.

    I didn't say that the genocide of 6 million people is crazy either, I said it's crazy to exploit the suffering of these people.
     
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    #37
    It should stop in my opinion - correct way

    It has got to stop in my opinion - Ironic

    anti-antisemitism?? :confused:
     
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    #38
    Well thanks for the correction.

    zzzzzzzz
     
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    #39
    Oh, I forgot, it's only prejudice when *your* ox (PBUH) gets gored. Anyone else's is fair game.
     
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    #40
    That may be the first accurate thing you have said.
     
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