The goal of USA? (Or at least those in the Europe)

however is it our responsibility to help others? no, but our generousity.
i think that America was being generous in its efforts towards other nations.
do you think Americans don't know that it costs us money and lives to fight?

 

I agree with your sentiments but think instead of using tax money to fund wars abroad we should allocate the money to humanitarian causes abroad. Imagine the good 250,000 troops could do in helping people get access to food and water etc.

 

you don't help anyone by chancing your very own national security

 

well said ^^ well said

 

You are deluded if you think starting a war in Iraq will lead to less people wanting to harm America.

You are deluded if you think your president took your troops into Iraq to prevent terrorist attacks on the US.

 

responsibility, Yes you have to make up for your mistakes.

Generousity wrong word selected.
A person destroys your home/family/future then gives you money(as loan) and take it back (with intrest), he can't be generous?

Cost and lives to fight, thats the price you have to pay when you devastate millions of people around the world.

I suggest you better study the politics, economics and yes history before using the word generous.

 

It was illegal, what more do you want me to say? It is illegal under the geneva convention to attack a country with the aim of destabilising their government. I don't know what else to say on the matter. Are you now saying that it is ok to break the law in certain circumstances?

Saddam Hussain was a threat to no one but his own people. WMD's have never been found, facilities for the making of WMD's have never been found. WHY? Maybe because they were never there to begin with?

 

To Young to understand your medieval approach in the 21st century
and stupid that I haven't realized that years ago.

What about you? Have you searched your mohammad yet.
Chose your language and there you go ...
Be fair and enter the dialogue in civilised manner

 

Here here! I scoff everytime I hear people saying the world is a safer place.

I lived through IRA terrorism in the late 70's 80's and 90's. AMERICAN FUNDED terrorism as well funded via Noraid, good job there was no war on terrorism then as Britain would be attacking America to dry up the funds going to the IRA!

America has woken up to terrorism because it came to their door. It came to their door because of their middle East policy. WHy can they not see what is happening? America were shipping rockets to Israel, and bringing them in through a UK airbase. If America stopped shipping rockets to Israel, stop this limitless backing of Israel, THEN the world would be a safer place.

The Israeli power brokers in the American government are pulling the strings here, them and the arms manufacturers (who are often one and the same). Regardless of the reality, the perception is that America is backing a war against Islam.

The time for fighting has passed, *if there ever was a time). to defeat terrorism, you MUST talk to the terrorists. If nothing else was learned from the troubles in Ireland, THIS was! We now have peace in Ireland, the only sporadic outbursts are nothing to do with the troubles, and everything to do with gangs and turf wars. But We have peace!

America must talk to the people they are fighting. They must call a truce across the world, they must call for talks in Iraq. Over 100 innocent civilians every day are being murdered in Iraq. and unless we call for all party talks it will escalate into a full blown civil war.

 

Apart from being illegal, with the war in Iraq Bush and Blair took their eyes off the ball in the 'War On Terror' Bin Laden was still in Afganistan along with the terrorist training camps, yet suddenly all eyes, attention and cash was diverted to Iraq.

This whole war is a crazy idea anyway. Didn't the USA learn the lessons of Vietnam? You can't fight an enemy that doesn't want to stand and fight. You'll lose every time. It takes covert action to beat guerrillas and terrorists.

 

Matt, again you post logic. Of course logic flies in the face of the US war machine

 

I believe all do not understand vietnam.
America did not start the war in vietnam. We first went there to bail out the french, yes we wanted to stop communism, but we went over to help the french. It later escalated.

 

Understanding it's origins are different to understanding tactics and strategy. Whatever it's origins doesn't change the fact that conventional warfare is next to useless against a fragmented and non-defined enemy.

 

true... but vietnam was not an american use of it's "war machine"

 

What do you define 'war machine' as, it was a war, nothing more nothing less.

 

where did you live ireland or england

 

Wales I'd guess judging by his name.

 

well if it is wales the IRA were more active in ireland and england not scotland or wales

 

I lived in Wales, My friends were in Rutherglen St in Belfast just off the falls rd. My Brother was in The Army, so we spent a lot of time in Woolwich where he was posted . So yep, I saw it from lots of sides sadly.

You are dead right though, the IRA NEVER attacked their celtic cousins in their homelands it was confined to Ireland and England.

Would you agree that the only way to peace is negotiation? (be carefull what you say as my Neighbour is Peter Haine, the minister for Northern Ireland LOL)

 

I don't think he's saying he was affected by it, rather having lived in the areas that would have received news coverage. I don't live in Iraq but I follow the news.