Its funny how the thread starter compares france to united states, but as soon as it goes the other say, a comment like that is made.
And now there will be no more replies from him to that comment. He'll simply try to shift the argument to something else. Or he'll just throw his hands up in the air and call someone a racist.
The French want to beat America at everything, so I think their new generation of violent students will expedite the race to “who is the most violent democratic nation?†D
I bet the unemployed students arent the ones rioting. The ones who are employed are simply saying "we got our jobs" screw you all - we dont wanna be fireable
Not sure if I'd want to work at a place knowing the only reason I'm kept around is because I CAN'T be fired
It is life! It can happen to anyone anywhere. I once was sacked because I made to much money no warning (2 weeks) I was paid sal/bonus I did to good a job and my bonus skyrocketed. They hired a new person and lowered the bonus structure. My brother was a union airline mechanic he was locked out, not fired he could go back to work for 1/2 pay and no benifits. My brother inlaw's company left the state = no more job. No such thing as job security. After my eyes were opened I began working online and never went back to work for anyone but me.
World of difference between can't be fired and fired without cause - and the middle ground of written warnings (shape up or ship out) etc. Yes, redundancies happen, union lockouts happen but in civilised countries (and I thought the US would be in there) there are laws to protect both parties and encourage quick, win-win agreements.
There is a long tradition in France of militancy when it comes to jobs or anything that impinges on the rights of workers. It seems to me that this is probably the first step in trying to break the power the workers unions currently enjoy in France. Britain was in a similar situation in the 1980's with workers unions able to exert massive influence and control over the political landscape. Then came the infamous Miners strike where miners and protesters had the crap kicked out of them by police, the security services were deployed to stir up trouble on the picket lines and against the union leaders, and the full force of the Government was deployed to break the strike including rushed-through anti-union legislations. Ironic that natural gas prices are today going through the roof since Britain abandoned 300 years worth of coal reserves when the entire mining industry was shut down. Anyway, it worked as far as the Government was concerned and the unions were all effectively neutered, allowing massive changes to the working environment in the UK. A double-edged sword really. Long term economic growth and stability being the primary benefit for the country as a whole but the primary downside being greater unemployment (official figures are total BS) and greater poverty for more people (approx. one third of the UK population now require some form of state assistance to reach the minimum standard, including many of those in work). With the forthcoming French pensions crisis looming large on the horizon and the ever spiraling state spending in France on welfare, there is little option but for the French Government other than to break the unions. Expect a lot more.
Worker rights is very important in europe. People here hates their employers openly and have no trust in them. The french people will not even get any pro-employer reform a try. They are very thick-headed and read books by Karl Marx.
Start an internet business and be your own boss Then you can tell your boss to go get ....... Self sufficiency is always the way to go...its one of the few useful things my old man ever tought me..its only now im finally understanding how true that is. Lets face it though...an employer can always find a way to get rid of an employee if he or she wants too. Employers complaining that they cant lay off unproductive people, which is still an argument made by the liberals here in Australia..is an absolute load of BS, unless i guess its still heavily unionised, not many of those left. I dunno why a law like that in France is even necessary. On a side note..the French love a good protest, it fills in an otherwise dull day.
Hey, man- I'm NOT saying France is better than America. I've been to France a few times and have absolutely NO DESIRE to go back. Personally, I think the people there suck a bit of ass. I was simply pointing out some facts that I'm sure you were unaware of.
No problem. I can also add that the people there are very bored with the life which is also a reason for making a riot.
The French always believe they are right and the rest of the world is wrong. They are also extremely selfish when it comes to foreign policies. I can't understand how so many government officials even listen to what they have to say. They should be grateful, yet they are hateful. Like I've said: the best thing you can do is ignore anything they ever say.
Like it or not, the French have been around for a lot longer than the US, have colonised more countries and have a sphere of influence far greater than the size of the country or it's very recent history would suggest, therefore ignoring them and anything they say is probably not the wisest move. They have, as a country, every right to be extremely selfish with foreign policy and to try to protect their national interests. Same as every country. I can't say I agree with many of their decisions but that's merely my opinion.
Absolutely 100% agree that France would have been subjugated to this day, however, like it or not (and I often don't), that help and all of the blood that bought their country back was given in the principle of freedom and that allows them to decide to use their freedom any way they see fit.