The forgotten scumbag in the massive WMD lie.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by AGS, Feb 5, 2008.

  1. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Ever thought that maybe bush, cheney and rumsfeld werent faked;)
     
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  2. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #22
    I believe I am going to win the lottery every week.

    A belief is not enough, there has to be hard facts, and because of this scumbags (including Powell) are the reason that we are currently in the disaster that we're in now.

    And it is going to get a lot worse too, I think Bush is bad, he's going to be nothing compared to Hillary Clinton.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Ha......Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld wanted to take out Iraq long before 9/11. faked or not faked...they had Saddam in their sites.

    But I do believe they were faked out. Saddam had the whole world believing he had WMD.
     
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  4. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #24
    Yeap IMHO, comparatively speaking Powell was the best and most honorable of the lot.

     
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  5. TechEvangelist

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    #25
    Pingy, you really need to wake up to the realities of the world. Saddam also tried to move his jet fighters to Iran just before the US invasion, but Iran refused him. That was all over the news just before the war. He was trying to play the Islamic camaraderie card because he didn't have very many other choices.

    It's not so far fetched that he would move WMDs to another wacko country who would gladly take them for free--or they may be buried deep in the desert. The USA did find jet fighters and other weapons buried in the desert. He had several years to hide them after he kicked the UN out. Take your pick. The WMDs did exist. The question still remains as to where they are.

    Yeah, a few degraded WMDs were found. If I was running out of time, I would also not waste time trying to hide those weapons. The ones that you can use are the weapons that are important.
     
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  6. DiscussNow

    DiscussNow Peon

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    #26
    What disaster would you be talking about? Iraq?

    I would assume being the president of the United States is not an easy task. I would also assume that after your country just suffered the largest terrorist attack recorded, you would be a little more rash with your decisions.

    How many people were refuting the claim that Iraq had WMD's right before the war? 0. It may have been a rash choice on Bush's part, but it was better than sitting and not doing anything.

    Alot of conflicts don't work out as well as planned.

    Why did we enter WW2 (other than the japanase, obviously)? Because we were preventing a crazy facist from completing his sadistic goals.
    How many casulties did we have?

    Why did we enter Iraq? Because we were preventing a crazy facist from completing his sadistic goals.
    How many casulties did we have?

    All I see in this forum is paulunteers spreading all of this "america is doomed propaganda".

    I'm actually quite comfortable in a safe,secure, and rich nation.
     
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  7. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #27
    Ron Paul did.

    http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2002/cr100802.htm
     
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  8. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #28
    Well said. These are important points which often seem to be lost in "simpler" analyses.

    Yes, to a certain extent Saddam did "fake" out all of the worlds leaders and intelligence agencies. However, that is not completely accurate as Saddam did get caught with some WMD and was very likely able to relocate much more WMD to allied nations.
     
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  9. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #29
    From 1945 to the end of the century, the United States attempted to overthrow more than 40 foreign governments, and to crush more than 30 populist-nationalist movements struggling against intolerable regimes. In the process, the US caused the end of life for several million people, and condemned many millions more to a life of agony and despair.

    Source: http://snipurl.com/1z8uu
     
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  10. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #30
    Yep. We've destroyed a lot of very bad governments and saved hundreds of millions of lives. We've defeated global fascism and global communism. We've been the greatest force for good that the world has ever known.

    Thanks for giving us credit for combating evil! :rolleyes:
     
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  11. TechEvangelist

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    #31
    gauharjk, do you have a credible source for your information?

    I didn't realize that the the USA has contributed that much to straightening out this screw-up planet. Have you calculated the millions of lives we have saved by helping to overthrow intolerable regimes that were slaughtering people?

    I suppose you count Saddam's antics or the Taliban as populist-nationalist movements. How about Bosnia or Kosovo? We were probably on the wrong side with those conflicts.

    Perhaps we should just let people slaughter each other and not get involved. :D
     
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