The End Of The Internet?

I think Tesla is very intelligent and a valued member too!

Rob does too TOPS, he just does not like the source and I hope he explains why his opinion on the publication is so poor!

 

We clearly have different "books".

 

What about 5% of adsense earnings donations for a free ISP and Internet?.

I would go for it.

G has the power to overcome this threat and hopefully they will not turn evil...although with china G has shown some part of evil

This requires alot of money...aloooot.

 

The post that Tesla linked to was one of the most linked to posts in the blogosphere yesterday. While it may not be the highest authority, there are many others talking about this. The fact is the head of AT&T really did say that he doesn't believe content providers should get a free ride; which is obviously a threat to the internets relevance. It's unlikely that most CPs will want to pay the telecoms so they can be on their network - meaning end users will be paying more for less. It's a horrible plan.

I'm glad Tesla is keeping up on the industry, others should do the same.

 

Google isn't Google anymore... It's now those who own the stock that ultimately make the decisions.

 

Stop trying to outthink yourself, Tesla

 

I came up with the idea of the new ISP, tesla emphasized on it. I think it's a very good idea. If we can find programmers willing to do this (with or without pay) then we'll have something going. Also this will only go into effect only if they build these limits into browsers and or ISP. Which it looks like a few ISP's have already happily jumped onboard with the idea. Therefore, building our own isp(s), search engines, etc... and not giving in to the government pretty much cancels out what they are wanting to do.

 

Edz, I think your idea is noble, but Google is too far gone. The news last week about them helping China censor their search results makes me think they are part of the problem to.

I speak for myself in saying I have no problem providing donations to an honest source who is willing to build a non corporate controlled ISP.

The only problem is who? Who do we make donations to? I don't know how to start an organization like this. And how do we insure that such donations will be used to the benefit of all and not used in a corrupt manner?

You know, I was watching a documentary about computer hackers recently, and I was very impressed with the information. The famous guy named Fiber Optic made an appearance, and the things he talked about made me think.

Hackers for the most part aren't bad people. I think they will be the best crusaders against the attempt at the regulation of the internet.

The biggest problem I see right now is how to start to an ISP like this and who controls the money, and how do we insure they don't run off with it?

scylla, the idea you came up with is genius. If implemented it will frustrate big corporations and the government. In the event that Internet 2 becomes available, people used to freedom will stay with Internet 1.

If the UN gets control of internet 1, and alternative ISP companies are started, digital content will flow from the controlled internet to one which is free.

For example, most people realize that tv and the internet are merging. Hollywood and cable companies will quickly attempt to jump on this bandwagon, offering services online.

But these companies don't understand the net as good as programmers, hackers, and crackers do. What I mean by this is if the companies attempt to put all their content in an online environment, though they will make the first sales of their product due to the 80/20 principle, eventually the data will become available for free, because someone will crack and distribute it.

In other words, if big companies fully move online, they can expect to make money off initial sales, but not for prolonged periods of time.

If "two internets" existed, one controlled and one not controlled, eventually digital goods would flow from the controlled net to the uncontrolled net, where P2P programs would naturally flourish.

 

Tesla, Google needs to do business in China so Microsoft does not run off with this giant market!

All businesses must do business by "the law of the land", unless you are EXXON and have purchased the leadership!

 

What you say makes perfect sense from a business point of few. Is it smart from a business point? Yes, as much as I hate to admit it. Is it ethical? That is a different question all together.

I slammed Google really bad last week in a post I made about their decision, and though I don't agree with it, they can't tell the Chinese government what do to, and they have to compete with MSN.

I just don't want to see the US end up like that.

 

Fun Fact: The government was originally offered control and ownership of the "world wide web" before it was released to the public, but they refused it, saying "It would never catch on."

 

LOL, I've read that somewhere before. Funny how times change, eh?

 

That really is encouraging to hear LOL

 

This may be very old news for most here, but I’m adding this info just as more reference for the discussion.

xxhttp://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-243556A1.pdf

This is a document detailing remarks by former FCC chairman Michael Powell regarding migration to broadband.

Since it is already 2 years old, take it for what its worth. Someone may have more updated information that points to a change in attitude since then.

From his remarks, the FCC appeared to be very much against limiting the ‘freedom’ and ‘neutrality’ of the internet. He even warns against the very scenarios being discussed by Jeff Chester.

I guess my question is: What has changed? Powell’s remarks seem to paint a different picture than the negative portrait painted by Jeff Chester.

I don’t have a strong opinion either way regarding the FCC’s role. Maybe the sky is falling or maybe not, but there seems to be some very conflicting information out there.

 

http://www.turnofftheinternet.com/

http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm

 

im kinda late but thats a good idea :d LOL

 

You cant just go create a "new internet" if they take control of this one. They will just take control of that as well. The goverment will do anything.
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Just found this....
business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9075-2023600,00.html

 

I think this may eventually happen..may

I don't think it would be anytime soon. I remember when they shut down Napster. That took time for that to take effect. And even today, illegal P2P sharing runs rampant.

Regulations will come, but a total change, atleast IMO, would take years and years to take effect. There are too many smart people for any government to go against on the internet. And hopefully, I'll be too wealthy to care in 5 years.

Better go work now.

 

I took a look at that article. Pretty interesting stuff. Google is going to get really powerful in the next decade. No doubt about it.