The emperor wears no clothes. Dubya...is the perfect example of this fairy tale

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  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #41
    The Iraqi Weapons of mass destruction are in Mars.

    For Satellite Imagery Proof go here, you lazy idiot who can't even google for facts:
    http://www.2la.org/Mars/iraq-wmd.php

    The Bush administration knows this but does not want to spark a war with Mars. France and Russia assisting in moving the materials with mobile stations for the laboratories. This is called covering your ass, as the UN was involved in a scandal with the Oil-For-Food bribes. Russia was caught giving night-vision technology to Iraq as well.

    Saddam was Ba'ath. Mars is Ba'ath. 2+2=4.

    Don't you understand? Haven't you seen the x-files? It is the Alien who moved the WMD with their UFO. :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Cyrus255

    Cyrus255 Well-Known Member

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    #42

    That was by far, the most immature, lazy response I have ever heard.

    This is a CREDIBLE source. He has been applauded by all of the international community for journalistic integrity. How dare you condescendingly dumb down this forum with your idiotic "I know you are, but what am I?" rhetoric.

    Rather than even read my source, and discover the truth, you'll just lie to yourself and everyone on this forum. Then shrug it off and keep pretending to be open-minded while shutting yourself off to the truth.

    If you're not interested in the truth, and finding out new information.... what is your purpose here?
     
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  3. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #43
    Didn't they pay some bank fraudsters before the war to come to state and say that Iraq had WMD? I think they made him a prime minister of Iraq for a while too. I have heard the going rate for your credible sources is about couple of thousand a month. I prefer to believe NSA and every other agency that admitted they were wrong about WMD. ;)
     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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  5. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #45
    What part of that quote are referring to? He has admitted that there was no WMD but instead of taking responsibility for his failure, he tries to blame everyone else in sight that they also made a mistake about this and he was not alone. It does not matter how many people you like to blame for this, it still doesn't change the fact that: THERE WAS NO WMD. :rolleyes:
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #46
    Help me out here. Which part of:

    does he admit there were no WMD? The intelligence was wrong. And who did he say was wrong? "We" And who is "we?"

    How does something that doesn't exist, get looted?
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=283617&postcount=2

    You don't know, do you? :D
     
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  7. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #47

    Bold text is all you need to know. :rolleyes:


    That's why we went to war? To remove machinary possibly capable of making PARTS? NOT EVEN THE PARTS THEMSELVES! What a joke! :mad:

    Is that right, GTech?
     
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  8. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #48



    Let's keep the personal attacks and name calling out these discussions. I know it's easy to get worked up but people have been recently banned for doing that. Mmmkay?
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #49
    Actually, the text to the right of the bold, is just part of what you need to ignore ;) There's plenty more to ignore.

    Which on you figure was the toughest for saddam to give up? Probably killing his civilian population, eh?
     
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  10. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #50

    And what does that have to do w/ non-existant WMD? Or are you trying to re-direct the debate... again.
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #51
    It has nothing to do with WMD that were discovered, continue to be discovered and were looted, and continue to be ignored.

    What it DOES have to do with, was your question "That's why we went to war?" Just wanted to make sure you had all the facts, even if they don't matter.
     
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  12. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #52

    Facts...facts...facts! Your so-called facts referrence a "dormant" parts making program!

    Or do you have information that we (the general public and UNSCOM) have not been privy to?

    Seriously, GTech, you're really reaching and you know it.
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #53
    But there was so much more! With inspections taking place across Iraq, it would have to have been dormant. What kind of parts were made? For what?

    In the weeks after Baghdad fell in April 2003, looters systematically dismantled and removed tons of machinery from Saddam Hussein’s most important weapons installations, including some with high-precision equipment capable of making parts for nuclear arms, a senior Iraqi official said this week in the government’s first extensive comments on the looting.

    U.N. satellite imagery experts have determined that material that could be used to make biological or chemical weapons and banned long-range missiles has been removed from 109 sites in Iraq, U.N. weapons inspectors said in a report obtained Thursday.

    Twenty tons of chemical WMD in a plot by zarqawi that was uncovered before it could be carried out. Zaraqawi was in Iraq prior to the invasion.

    US troops raiding a warehouse in the northern city of Mosul uncovered a suspected chemical weapons factory containing 1,500 gallons of chemicals believed destined for attacks on US and Iraqi forces and civilians, military officials said yesterday.

    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38213

    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48827

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...25.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/01/25/ixnewstop.html
    Nothing to see here :rolleyes:
     
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  14. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #54
    Well in this wide ranging conversation it seems the emporor definitely has no clothes.

    And it seems like there is widespread belief. On the one hand we have gtech et al arguing that there are weapons of mass destruction and they were moved. Well, I don't see the administration arguing that case.

    Gtech: Do you believe what the administration is saying?

    Now as I stated a while back, nobody has directly implicated either Bush or Cheney for initiating the leak on Valerie Plame's identity. I misspoke in my first post.

    Regardless, the declassification of the document was made in conjunction with the revelation that this CIA agent's identity was revealed. Both were done in conjunction to discredit Wilson's editorial. Both were done to discredit this critic of the administration's decision making and reasoning and arguments for going to war.

    Now we have a third recent retired general wrting in Newsweek that the administration's war decisions have been miserable.

    And still the administration wants us to buy into all its claims.

    Not to say that new direction on Iraq is an easy choice. In fact it is a brutal series of choices with many opportunities for further difficult times.

    I think I'd rather have a different set of decision makers working on them though, or at the very least a new set of strong advisors with some serious advise, dissent and some opportunity for the rest of us to get a fix on what is going on.
     
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  15. Cyrus255

    Cyrus255 Well-Known Member

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    #55

    If he had nothing to hide, why didn't he allow UN inspectors in?
    Because he was in the process of transferring his WMD program to Syria!

    You don't need to trouble your peanut-sized brain any more than that.
     
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  16. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #56
    so pretty much you are saying the war is failure, we let the WMDs excape into even worse hands?
     
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  17. latehorn

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    #57
    Iran and Syria would be some nice extensions to the US map in Middle east. Afganistan, Iraq and now Iran and soon Syria is going american soil. Great! I support it, since this would imrove the free-worlds grip on the evil powers. I hope that the troops never ever leave the middle east, look how it went in France, they hate you despised that you liberated them from nazism.
     
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    #58
    They never seem to address this do they? I wonder why ;)

    Next they'll want war with Syria because they have WMD... and Iran... and soon enough the whole world. Crazy conservatives let me tell you.... :rolleyes: :cool:
     
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    #59
    LOL, there are also

    1. countries that have nukes
    2. NATO members
    3. normal countries(countries that don't want to destroy/fearieze any western culture/country)

    Iran and Syria are not one of them :D
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #60
    I've addressed it many times. In fact, it's one I've enjoyed addressing. You can either accept there were none, even though there were, or you do accept (rightfully so) they were there, and it's Bush's fault he didn't fly over, parachute out of a c130, and personally guard them.

    I always enjoy this, because when you show there were wmd (no one said they had to be all nice and neat in pretty little stockpiles), the uninformed liberal will seek to place blame on Bush for not personally guarding them. It shows that they accept they were there and now seek to blame Bush for something else.

    Gotta love the logic :D
     
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