The Elegant Hijab - Hijab in Nature

You are so twisted trying to justify beating your wife when you know it is dead wrong, so you come up with this bullshit that it is NEVER allowed, except when it is ALLOWED BY ISLAM.

thegr4, even if she mocks your little dick, IT IS NEVER OKAY TO HIT YOUR WIFE.

The Russian, Chinese, and the Western world will eventually tire of all the Muslim bullshit and band together. That is when we will be living in interesting times.

The three world powers already all deal with Muslim terrorists attacking their countries and each of those superpowers could not give a shit about Mohammad or Allah or whatever Muslims are trying to shove down the throats of the rest of the world.

 

Because in the Muslim world, spousal abuse isn't a crime and isn't reported as a crime. duh. How dumb are you?

In the civilized world, spousal abuse is a crime. Under Islamic Law, it's the recommended. If you can't see the difference between a civilization that makes spousal abuse a crime and a civilization that promotes spousal abuse, you are seriously too stupid to function in the world.



That is what you are promoting for yourself and your children.

 

And where did you pluck this little "fact" from, up your arse? How do you know that spousal abuse isn't a crime and isn't reported as a crime in the Muslim world? Do you really think that I am that dumb to just take your word for it?

If you think the United States of Israel is a "civilised world", I am certainly unimpressed with the rate of "civility" when it comes to the statistics concerning spousal abuse. In Islam, there are many ways to address spousal abuse. There are even counselling teams in Islamic religious departments to deal with spousal abuse issues. So much for the claim that spousal abuse "isn't treated as a crime". You really need to pay a visit to your nearest MUIS branch and see how they deal with marital problems.

 

It takes a special breed of person to see that picture and think "marital problems" and not "criminal mayhem".

 

It happens everywhere in the world, the Muslim nations aren't exactly the exception to the rule. Once you get that into your head, then perhaps you will get some common sense and stop beating that chest claiming to "civilisational superiority".

 

In the Muslim world this is a "marital problem" to be dealt with by counselors, in the rest of the world this is a criminal matter where the perpetrator will be punished.

p.s. In the West there would be no opportunity for one of your Islamic "she deserved it to save the marriage" or "she did not know her place" or "she dishonored our Muslim sensibilities" bullshit excuses.

 

I hear this a lot from you. "Its not just us, it happens everywhere". You talk WWII like Hitler's association with Christianity had something to do with it.

The not so subtle distinction between spousal abuse in Islamic countries, and spousal abuse in other countries is that other countries don't promote or condone the activity. Take Rania Al'Baz for instance.


If you read the article, you'll find her case was unique only in that she spoke out against the activity. Her reward for speaking out was the loss of her career and her children, and she eventually fled the country. Her husband, having been so publicly outed, was given 300 lashes. Pretty light sentence when you consider this woman received 200 lashes for the crime of being gang raped. At the heart of the problem is the fact your book, the Qur'an, and your clerics specifically promote the beating of women and the treatment of them as lessors. There may be rape and abuse problems in the rest of the world, but you folks stand alone in openly endorsing the activity, to the point of legislating its legality.

 

I have repeated it several times that Islam only allows beating in order to prevent divorce, it doesn't mean torture, it doesn't mean to physically hurt her. It does not even include to slap her on face.
When a child does not learn a lesson and keeps on ignoring a teacher, the teacher has the right to punish.
Does the child get injured or hurt?

 

You are honestly comparing a wife to a child and a husband to a teacher who has a right to punish her? I call BS.

The only way that beating someone, whether your leave physical marks or only mental ones, prevents divorce is by making the victim afraid to leave.

Wife beating in Islam could be compared to when a woman abuses a man. It is frequently unreported because the victim is afraid and ashamed.

Sickening.

 

Once again, for the slow people in the room, some education regarding Islamic promotion of spousal abuse.

[video=youtube;iWGA8i6scYY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWGA8i6scYY[/video]

 

Following that infallible logic... they might wanna try allowing you to do Tequila shots in order to prevent intoxication.

 

Also love and intimacy to be happy.

 

They could try the Democrat's strategy of spending their way out of debt.

 

I will again quote this verse: Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) said: "the best among you is the one who is best to his wife", does that sound like keeping wife in fear. Husbands are as friendly to their wives as they are friends with each other. Even more than just friends.

You people are just jealous of why we Muslims have a lower crime rate, next to nil child and women abuse, next to zero suicide rate. We have family values, we respect our wife, we respect our children, we respect our parents, children have respect for parents and for teachers, we have respect for our neighbours and for relatives. We care for poor, we give charity to poor people.
We don't throw our parents in old houses, we don't f*** babies, we don't have premarital sex, we don't have illegitimate babies, we don't have prostitutes.

We remember Allah, we fear Allah, we ask for Allah in hardship. We live a clean life.

But you people, you drink beer, you go to prostitutes, you f*** children to forget about your worries. You throw away your parents in mental houses, you do sex before marriage and flush off resulting babies in toilet like faeces, lesbians, gays and all sort of in human acts you do, still you call yourself a civilized nation.
Look at your crime rate, look at your suicide rate, look at your child sex rate, look at your drugs rate, look at your drunkards, look at your divorce rate before you even compare yourself with us.

Sick!! Sick people!

Glad this filthy nation will go extinct.

 

.... When you say your suicide rate is next to zero, are you forgetting about Muslims constantly blowing themselves up? As to child rape, you allow child marriage - and in marriage you think it is OK to rape your spouse - so obviously you don't count it as rape - right?
Women don't report because you punish them for it - I could provide links but you can look this up for yourself, I think - find a site you trust rather than bitch about our links.
You also DO have prostitutes - I actually know someone who went to a prostitute and she actually stopped to pray at one point; so for a fact, I know there is at least one Muslim prostitute, lol.

We do drink beer - and wine - and rum - and many other fantastic drinks.

We also allow people to love who they like if they aren't hurting anyone - gender doesn't matter if both people consent and are happy. To care what two people who are in love do in their own home sexually is perverted - why do you care? Are you a pervert?

As to sex before marriage; yup. I have sex with my long term partner. We aren't married - but we're in love and committed to one another. I've never thrown a baby in a dust bin or had an abortion - so why is this so wrong? What is the reason if there are not kids involved?

 

It's wrong because a long-dead murderer, thief, child molester and rapist said it was wrong -- SO THERE! Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah

 

How can you call sex with a stranger a nice act, that's insane. You should also legitimise rape (if he has a condom put on) as well. No child will be involved. Or, you should keep a pack of condoms when you go out, you can meet those sicko strangers any where. Its your fault if there shit goes into you.

Correct your concept, we don't allow child marriage, a girl can marry when she reaches age of menstruation. Meaning that she is capable of becoming a mother, so even if a girl is married at 14 what's wrong with it. Its part of our culture that women marry at average age of 22.

 

It's wrong because, even if she is bleeding physically, a nine year old girl is not emotionally or mentally mature enough to be in a relationship with a 54 year old man.

I hope some secular government catches you before you are able to actually hurt a child.

 

As testimony to the culture of fear in Muslim communities, notice that the few moderate Muslims that spoke out in protest against child marriage, and the idea that Islamic communities permit child marriage are dead silent when thegr4 comes out promoting the concept over and over again. A few muted protest at the general concept, but when some other Muslim pipes up with, "What is wrong with child marriage!!??", not a word.

Nightcrawlers mentioned he started getting neg rep on his other posts the minute he posted something moderate.

 

You really have a very limited understanding of English, don't you?

I never said anything to condone rape! I said that when two people are in love that even if they have sex when they aren't married, where is the harm if they aren't hurting anyone else and they are not putting babies in dustbins, having abortions, etc - so how about answer the question rather than pretending I said something that I did not say?

I have sex with my partner and we ensure I do get pregnant as we currently do not want any children; explain to me why that is wrong in your twisted mind. Or admit there is nothing wrong with it. Your choice

As to my concept - 14 is not psychologically mature enough to handle marriage. Some girls, at 14, are physically ready for sex. Others are not. A 13 year old Muslim girl died recently while her husband was violent violating her - is this not wrong? Is it not fucking sick?

You know child marriage exists in Islam. You know child sex exists in Islam. Your prophet raped a child - you know this. Don't lie about it, or you just seem like you have never opened the Qu'ran in your life.