I am making this topic for several reasons. 1. I see the debate over whether there is a supreme deity in many threads, and they do not specifically relate to religion, as religion is the organized worship of a deity. This surpasses the religious debate and goes to a different core debate of does/do God/gods exist? 2. To hopefully enlighten those who hold different viewpoints on other's opinions on whether or not said deity(ies) exist, and also to further educate those in the great debate. 3. To clear out many of the topics that turn into mud flinging over whether a God exists when the initial purpose of said topic deals with a religion or with politics. It is true that religion and the existence of a deity do indeed play a role - but the debating aspects could be brought to a separate topic to hopefully unclutter those that have become nothing more than petty flame war posts. 4. Finally, because I have been unable to find a definitive post that starts with these goals in mind to foster a fruitful debate rather than a crappy sling fest filled with idiotic statements. So, please stay civil. I am not responsible for anything said in this post nor should I be held liable for anyone's feelings being hurt just because another person believes in something different. Remember, this is not about any specific religion but rather about the existence of a single deity or multiple deities. Most already know my position of apatheism, however I will not interject my opinions until after a few others have, I would prefer not to taint the topic with my own bias.
you can not prove either way but you can easily see that all organized religions are about power and money. so we can comfortably disregard them.
Well, I figure you could explain why you may think there is a deity, and also why not. From this you can examine your own views - you may very well remain undecided, however you may also find you have a stronger affinity to one over the other.
I hate this topic because I am not ver religious but I do not want to be called an atheist. I do not take the Bible as God's words but I believe in something. Just not sure what. But you cannot prove God exists so this topic will most likley just be people ranting about pointless things.
Does God/Do gods exist? Well, a lot of people believe there is a God...a lot of people believe there are many gods...I, however, do not believe there are either. Why? When I want to believe in something, I want it to be tangible...I want to see proof that an entity had existed in some form or another that is recognizable as such. Just because a burning bush had spoken to Moses doesn't mean God exists...hell, for all we know Moses could have been under the influence of some heavy drugs...in which case I wouldn't mind some of that lol. Call me aetheist, call me agnostic, call me whatever. Nothing can be said or done that will change my mind about the existence of god.
My views on the matter are at an impasse. I honestly believe that there is likely no chance that some great Deity is controlling anything we humans do. We're burning our planet to a crisp without the help of any higher power.