The cost of Jagger

Discussion in 'Google' started by flyguy, Oct 20, 2005.

  1. dkalweit

    dkalweit Well-Known Member

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    #21
    About $300-400/day down to <$100/day here... Yahoo, MSN, and some repeat customers are keeping me somewhat alive... One site was hit 9/22, the rest Sunday/Monday... If we have a full 30 days left, I'd say it's over $10k lost(since 9/22).


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  2. altyfc

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    #22
    I'm maybe down a fraction, but I'd say it was minimal - maybe between $50 and $100 a day max. It's hard to tell because we run mostly travel sites and traffic on them is expected to decline at around this time of year.

    Aaron
     
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  3. jlawrence

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    #23
    Over the last couple of days, G has started to send reasonable amounts of traffic to a couple of new sites of mine. This is traffic seems to be converting even better than normally :) and is mitigating the loss of my other sites quite easily.
     
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  4. noniman

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    #24
    Hi everyone,
    Dropped from position #3 (for about 3 years) to #20 on my main search term. It costs me around US$1000 - US$1500 a day on lost sales. Repeat customers keep me alive for now but if this doesn’t improve, I have to start looking for a fulltime job again. Some one page listings and PDF files are now above me in the search results what doesn’t seem right. All I can do is wait and see if there are any more changes to come I guess – hopefully soon.
     
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  5. e10

    e10 Well-Known Member

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    #25
    I´ve lost about 50% of revenue. There is an obvious drop in traffic but what is also interesting is that there is a significant drop in CTR. Why would that be?
     
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  6. jlawrence

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    #26
    e10: I have a theory that because of the drop in rankings many people visiting your site are looking specifically for that site rather than info on a subject. They know they can get what they want from the site so they don't follow links to other info
     
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  7. e10

    e10 Well-Known Member

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    #27

    I never thought of it that way. I was thinking that the drop in CTR reflected that the site was showing up for secondary or less relevant keywords and had lost position for so many of the better terms.
     
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  8. classifieds

    classifieds Sopchoppy Flash

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    #28
    Similar story with me. I'm down about $500/day. Traffic is off about 85% across 3 sites. My revenue is 50/50 adsense / product. Interesting thing is that adsense CTR and eCPM is up about 15% and orders per visitor is through the roof.
     
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    #29
    Im out :) ...But can someone tell me what this Jagger thing is :confused: ;)
     
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  10. jlawrence

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    #30
    It's somekind of update. That's about all anyone can tell you atm.
     
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    #31
    Looking at a drop of about 80%. Yikes.
     
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  12. noniman

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    #32
    Anyone knows of a good insurance for lost revenue after a Google update? Just want to get prepared for the next one. :)
     
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  13. mnemtsas

    mnemtsas Super Dud

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    #33
    Who knows. AS is down > 50 %. My software sales will take 10-30 days before I see the impact fully. Could be anywhere from $150-$250 a day hit.
     
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  14. footodors

    footodors Well-Known Member

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    #34
    I have a couple of sites that tanked and they, along with others are on the last page for main keyword
    I notice this trend on other keywords; getting dumped at the end of the list
     
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    #35
    Wow. I'm blown reading some people's financial impact -- ouch!
     
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    #36
    Seems like the average loss in SERPs is between 50-90%. Quite the range and for folks who make their livlihood from their rankings in search results it must be financially about as devestating as hurricane katrina was to the landscape in New Orleans. I haven't had everything blown away. I guess I should be thankful to be in the 50% loss range.

    Seen a few mysterious patterns emerging from looking at my tracking stats.

    01-I'm actually seeing hits coming from the 100+ search results pages. I saw one this afternoon that went out to position 192 to find my url...

    02-For some reason the visitor returns from images of my CD DVD album covers and gfx has increased ten fold. Can't imagine why that would be...

    Hope everybodys having a smooth non-googled weekend...
     
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  17. noniman

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    #37

    Found something interesting yesterday about some of my repeat customers.
    Some of them are going to Google, searching for my health product I am selling (it’s only one) and find me normally on position #3 for several years now.
    My customers are more elderly people and I found out they do not know how to bookmark a site for example so they are using Google like bookmarks in their browser.
    What is happening now is, these customers just keep browsing the search results until they find my site. I had 3 customers complaining as to why I have moved my site in Google, which they find very inconvenient.

    2 of these customers did not place an order since they could not find my website on the first search results page. Referred them to MSN since I am still listed as #2 under my main search term.
    Might be something similar with your visitor looking for your site at position #192.
     
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  18. michael_angeloh

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    #38
    Greetings Noniman,

    I think you might be right there... What this tells me is that the recent google update has not only affected the seo community but I've never seen so many visitors going to such extraordinary lengths to find what they're really looking for... I just noticed in my tracker that my 8th highest keyword in google serps is for "christmas music lyrics" of which I'm currently ranked 301... Thats like what..? 30 pages of listings to get to my Christmas Music site..?

    Devestatingly Amazing..!
     
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  19. noniman

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    #39
    These are the best customers we can have – unfortunately not enough of them to keep me going after this update. :(
     
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  20. sameerpanjwani

    sameerpanjwani Banned

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    #40
    e'one seems to be on the losing end out here, anyone's gained?
     
    sameerpanjwani, Oct 24, 2005 IP