The CMS does better SEO than Joomla?

Discussion in 'Joomla' started by fenyullow, Oct 1, 2007.

  1. #1
    I am using Wordpress for myself which is enough, but now I need a complicated website for a NPO. I'm looking for a CMS that easy to use, SEO friendly. I used to use Joomla for a while, but I still haven't figured out how to make an easy thing like "http://www.website.com/about" instead of "http://www.website.com/component/option,com_jd-wp/Itemid,105/p,419/".

    I heard a lot of good things abuot Drupal, but not sure whether it's same complicated as Joomla, what do you suggest?
    Thanks
     
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  2. undir

    undir Peon

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    #2
    Joomla has a SEF feature to do that. Ask me and ill help you out.
     
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  3. fatinfo guy

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    Learn Drupal, it is very powerful and can do everything that Joomla and WordPress can do. Highly customizable with modules which is key.
     
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  4. fenyullow

    fenyullow Peon

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    Do you mind telling me here? Just give me some hints and I will try it out.
    Thanks
     
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  5. ecoBoris

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    Theres a couple of components that make SEO friendly URLs.

    Look around the Joomla component directory at joomla.org...

    However, the SEO friendly URLs will work with only certain other
    components. The programmers of the SEO components have to
    make these components work with other components.

    For all other components you will get those ugly urls but the
    website will work and it will be functional...
     
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    maroon_cool Active Member

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  7. ass45sin

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    Drupal 5..

    Turning on Clean URL... and for additional SEO friendly URL use Pathauto module to convert your URL to anything you wish it would be.

    In Drupal 6 should the environment permits Clean URL will be enabled immediately after installation by the installation script.
     
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  8. TikTok

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    I think the new Joomla 1.5 will have better optimized SEO-friendly URLs.

    Otherwise, you can always install OpenSEF, which will make all your urls seo-friendly.
     
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  9. engadven

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    Don't forget client side CMS solutions.
    They're very quick and easy and create very lightweight, optimized pages.
    They use PC based DB to HTML parsing engines, a bit like a blogging solution on your own PC.
     
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    What kind of functions will your new site serve up? Based off of your basic requirements (SEO and user-friendly), I'd recommend you give MODx a look. modxcms.com

    It is VERY easy to set up a clean site with this cms that is bloated with code you don't need. You can get a quick overview here
    squidoo.com/modxcms
     
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  11. sparksflying

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    Stick to Joomla and get an SEF component.. Theres free ones and paid ones out there..

    Learning curve should be as steep as Drupal.. I had a look at it before and no where near as pretty or user friendly...

    Did i say pretty in a thread.. beat me!
     
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  12. rishirajsingh

    rishirajsingh Banned

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  13. Claudek

    Claudek Well-Known Member

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    You fail to address the issue brought earlier that using a particular SEF component means some other components will not work. This limits the functionality of the CMS.


     
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  14. ecoBoris

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    sh404SEF is the best SEO component for SEO friendly URLs... Go to their webpage and you will find a list of other components that sh404SEF is compatible with. Most of the major ones are there. So it might depend on the components that you will use.

    One of the very cool things about Wordpress is all posts have SEO friendly URLs if you do it right... Joomla has SEO friendly URLs too for the articles you make with it too, but like you know, the 3rd party components is a different matter...
     
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  15. rishirajsingh

    rishirajsingh Banned

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    sh404SEF is compatible with most of components.
    I am using virtuemart and community builder ans its working well.
     
    rishirajsingh, Oct 24, 2007 IP
  16. hityourhead

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    You can just do it yourself manually via Joomla backend.

    Go to yoursite.com/adminitrator
    Go to the top menu and click on: Site --> Global Config

    Your last Tab should be: SEO

    Click on that tab and select the setting that best suites your needs.

    After you select it and apply the setting, quickly return to your website and assure that everything worked out smoothly(click on a few links). In case of any fault, you can simply follow the easy steps and switch back to normal.

    Cheers and hope this helped! :)
     
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  17. rishirajsingh

    rishirajsingh Banned

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    #17
    If you only change it from joomla back end then your url will look like
    domain.com/view/12/15

    But if you use any SEF extension you can change it to
    domain.com/category-name/title
     
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    I would recommend Virtuemart and the openSEF component. You can optimize each page on your site, including your shopping cart pages. It makes it very easy to optimize your web pages for certain keyword phrases and get ranked for those phrases in Google. Since search engines rank pages, not sites, this makes it very easy to get indexed.
     
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    hi
    i use sh404SEF with virtuemart and it works a treat. It also has meta tag module to do a lot of that work for you.
    all urls are sef and i appear on googles first pages for my most of my keywords.
     
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  20. TwistMyArm

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    9 times out of 10 that's a failing of the broken component, not the SEF component. If the broken component used the correct URL functions and so on that are provided by Joomla, they should work with any of the SEF components.
    This is also incorrect: again, for the SEF options that are true components, most of them follow the same standard and so it is up to the original component developer to make the SEF stuff work, not the SEF component developer. That is to say, the SEF component expects a certain file in the directory of each component... if it's not there, it uses its own default setup.

    But like I say, its up to the developer of the original component to get their code to work with the SEF components, not the other way around (and once they have it working with one, they generally have it working with them all).
     
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