The best way to spin 1 article in 5

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by instantcash, May 10, 2007.

  1. #1
    What do you suggest to spin 1 article in 5 articles beside asking
    writer to rewrite it 5 times which can be quite costly for 1 article.

    I have tried Content Composer and it is quite difficult for me to
    use as I still need to write multiple phrases and words.
     
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  2. shuttle

    shuttle Active Member

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    try this one -http://www.contentrewrite.net/

    I have to mention that you would need to do some work on the wording after all is done by this converter.

    And I personally think that the best way to have this done is to do it yourself. If you are not good at writing ask a writer to do it. There's nothing better than the human touch.
     
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  3. gr8liverpoolfan

    gr8liverpoolfan Notable Member

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    No substitute for manual rewriting. As simple as that .
     
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  4. Creative Copywriting

    Creative Copywriting Peon

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    I would have to agree with this. Using any sort of conversion program the work will still come out sounding manufactured. There is really no way to reword an article properly without actually adding a human element. I find that you can tell the difference between original and manufactured content anyway. If you are needing the articles for their SEO value, then original content is the way to go every time. If you would like some more info on this please feel free to pm me as I do this kind of stuff all the time.
     
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    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    If rewriting "multiple phrases and words" is too hard or too much work for you, then you simply need a reality check, and you need to find another marketing tactic than article writing, b/c it's obviously not for you. If you can't pay for the content, and you can't write it yourself, then you need a new business model.
     
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    Rewrite each title and paragraph two times... so a total of three original articles. That is pretty effective.

    -SS
     
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  7. latoya

    latoya Active Member

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    These content rewriting "tools" are laughable. You can't seriously expect a machine - that has been programmed by a human, might I mention - to write the same way a human can.

    case in point...

    :confused:

    Not only does it not make sense anymore, it isn't really rewritten. Rewriting isn't about simply replacing words with synonyms, which is all these programs can do. It takes human understanding to read a sentence or parapraph and rephrase it in a way that ensures the essence of the original content is still there.

    just another example...

    It takes money to make money. If you aren't willing to spend any, then don't expect to make any.

    To answer your question, the best way to turn 1 article into 5 when you don't want to pay a writer is to do it yourself. You'll do a better job than any program.
     
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  8. stilloutthere

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    If you are paying to have the article written, ask the writer if he or she can do several versions for you at the same time. You might be able to get the subsequent versions for less, because it takes less time that way.

    I recently wrote several different versions of the same thing as an exercise. One chatty, like a blog post, one serious sounding, and one 'just the facts, ma'am' list. I was surprised at how quickly the second versions went.
     
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  9. Tiggi

    Tiggi Active Member

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    Definitely. The content rewriting tools, from what I've been in touch with so far, are more than laughable - their output is simply ridiculous.
    If I were in your shoes, InstantCash, I would ask for a writer's help or change my marketing strategy, just as Jenn Mattern suggested.
     
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    sir_round Active Member

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    I have to say that I agree with Tiggi on this one.
     
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    I would use writers instead of tools-there seems to be a lot of newbies that can do it for you ands I'm sure they need the practice.
     
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    What is the good free webstie to post the articles for BUM marketing?
     
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  13. Wordsmith

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    Stupid re-write things
    What's that all about?
    Have no fear
    Google will spit you out!

    JohnT
     
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    just spin the same article 5 times :p ,it may destroy the quality
     
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    In my, limited, experience of spinners, if you want to really create
    a decent article with them you have to spend more time than it
    takes to rewrite one yourself by hand.

    The difficulty in rewriting is often that, once written, you find
    yourself repeating lines and sentences in the rewrite and seem
    unable to vary it enough. This becomes less of a problem with
    practice; but one way to get around it is to use a 'spinner' to
    spin out a bad alternative version then rewrite that.

    Another way of doing it is to list the main points of your article
    in order then write around these; or else reorder them and
    write around them. With practice, you will find that your
    ability to reword and rethink becomes far better and you
    will become faster.

    Phil
     
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  16. marketjunction

    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    Why bother. Just make 1,000,000 pages with this:

    Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Praesent pharetra. Maecenas adipiscing. Cras suscipit libero eu risus. Suspendisse rutrum tincidunt nisl. Nam purus risus, condimentum sit amet, imperdiet at, eleifend non, lacus. Aliquam erat volutpat. Mauris id nisl eu pede porta gravida. Pellentesque urna tellus, bibendum sed, suscipit nec, venenatis non, velit. Fusce ultricies. Nunc interdum suscipit risus.

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    Have fun.
     
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  17. sspoldir

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    Here is a tool that will work... and it's not a garbage spinner either that spits out gibberish.

    http://www.thekaizenbusiness.com/hermes/

    -SS


     
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  18. DeniseJ

    DeniseJ Live, Laugh, Love

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    Spinners are garbage period. There are simply varying degrees of "garbage." As Jenn mentioned, if you don't want to hire writers and don't want to write the articles yourself... find a new business model. This isn't working for you.
     
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    Spinning with automated tools will generate garbage. But, a writer (hopefully the original writer of the article) should be able to preserve tone, tempo, angle, and style and be able to make variants. The real question is how different do you want the spinned articles to be. The more the difference, the greater the effort.

    If you are just trying to beat getting your article into the supplemental index of Google, a 20 node spin will do the trick for a 400 word article. In fact, I think that a good ratio is 5 nodes for every 100 words.

    A node could be a word, phrase or a sentence that is changed -- ideally all of those interspersed.

    BTW, I am really good at manual spinning :D Apologies for the lack of modesty :D
     
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    teddyruxpin2000 Peon

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