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The best solution for Israel and Palestine

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Bali_Sunset, Sep 22, 2009.

  1. imad

    imad Peon

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    #61
    The sites you described as junk are:

    1- blogspot, if you bothered to check, you will find that they have a link to the source, which is The Jerusalem Post, Israel's b est selling English daily, here is the quote:

    and here is the source: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1180527966693&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer

    The second is Jews against Zionism: it is normal for you to hate them because they oppose the criminal so-called state of Israel, but this does not make them non-Jews, and does not mean there are no Jews who are against the so-called Israel, don't try to paint all Jews as Zionist, you know already that Israel does not represent all Jews, do you?

    the third source which you could not deny it's credibility, is the Guardian, and Yigal Carmon is a co-founder of Memri TV and the link I posted is not taking about Yigal personal life, but about his organization Memri TV, so yes, it is very related to the topic.

    I already answered your questions and gave examples, yes of course, these are fake translations produced by Memri, and not an accurate picture of the Arabs as been investigated by The Guardian.
    SEMrush
     
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    SEMrush
  2. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #62
    Possibly off topic... but shouldn't there be two "m"s in "I'm mad"? :p
     
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  3. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #63
    Hilarious rob jones...absolutley hilarious :rolleyes: How about you address his post instead of attempting (and failing) to be funny?
     
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  4. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #64
    Imad,
    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MEMRITVVideos&view=videos
    There are 134 videos there.

    "Cherry picking" is not possible for a video 2 minutes long or more. Nobody stays out of context for so long. we put that aside.

    To my best understanding, all of them were really broadcast on an arab TV station. All of them have an accurate translation (at least all these that I have seen myself, I remind you that my arabic is not bad).

    In 5 hours I am relocating to from Tel Aviv region to northern Israel, so Imad an arab (palestinian) friend of mine who will help me relocate will also do me a favour help me in the translation, perhaps my Arabic is not that good as I think.

    So please point out to me which of the videos have a "fake" translation and I will try to examine it again.

    Looking forward for the fake videos/fake translations by MEMRI.

    Good night.

    :D
     
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  5. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #65
    Imad has already given a good description of why MEMRI is not a credible organisation, there is nothing much there to add really except for that MEMRI is not even considered seriously by the majority of reputable news organisations around the world. Someone heading a so-called "institute" who was a former head of Mossad certainly would have an agenda.

    Possibly off-topic as well, but why is "ber" missing in "robber jones"? :rolleyes:
     
    Ibn Juferi, Sep 29, 2009 IP
  6. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #66
    Also possibly off topic... but why are you still here?

    Does this conversation ring a bell?
    Live Source: http://www.directoryjunction.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5400

    [​IMG]


    There's more... but why bother. Already sent some of it to a mod. People with dual logins are a pain,
    especially when they brag about being able to get around moderation. See you in your next incarnation. :)
     
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  7. david2626

    david2626 Well-Known Member

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    #67
    arabs and jew and christians beleave in bible - so in the bible wrote clear - israel is for jews! not for anyone another.
    i know that some jew dont make what the god say in the bible - but i pray and try jews make more what god say - then the arabs will not can touch finger of jews
    god make the arabs hate us because we have more to make what god say!
    we are before the world war 3
    it will be muslims against christians
    its not my words it in the bible said.
    american people are so naive - that they believe to muslims - but the end of this naive will be very pain to the all christian world. the muslim "use" the naive and the democrate places of the USA and Europe.
    read my words and look to the news - see the true start to go up from the dark.
     
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  8. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #68
    I am here because I am just passing through.

    So you found a post made by my friend and business partner? What does that prove :rolleyes:

    Good luck trying to get me "banned" for something which is of your imagination. I only have one account on DP and I intend that to remain this way. The forum administrator is a fair person, he helped me the last time.

    [​IMG]

    Like the message above says...I am not putting up with your S either.
     
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  9. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #69
    I doubt you have room for anymore anyway. :) You cant embarrass me with that screenshot btw... I published it on my blog *because* I wanted it to be seen that I'd been banned by a former DP troll.

    Anyway, so you're saying that one of the two rather obvious identities here that claims ownership of everything in the MENJ internet group is bragging in offsite forums about getting around the DP mods with multiple IDs. Which ID do you suggest they ban here for that activity... cause you just pointed the finger at the MENJ1980 ID. I also spotted several banned IDs that are also pretty obviously typing from the same chair... you must have a lotta partners.

    [btw - Since MENJ (an acronym for the name of the owner of VCtech) is always shown as THE owner, and you claim you're his partner... wonder why a full partner is never mentioned? All the VCtech literature claims the thing is run by AN internet entrepreneur... not a pair of 'em. How very curious.]
    ---
    Anyway, that brings us somewhat back on topic in the spate of threads discussing terrorism, because the arrest in Dallas the other day was an example of what the real threat is right now. The next big explosion in the US wont come from a hardcorp activist smuggled out of Afganistan or missiles from Iran.

    Like the Dallas almost-event, it'll be some warped internet kiddie whose online persona doesnt match his real life persona. He'll fall in love with violent Jihad in chat rooms while in real life he smokes marijuana and parties like a rock star. Two such disparate characters cannot coexist in the same brain, and eventually the jihadist/ party animal will snap and one or the other will take over.

    Someone noted today that the "business partner" identity expressed interest in exploring development of porn sites. If the ID there is who you say it was and is not you... it is still a rather odd behavior for someone that considers themself a rock of Islamic belief. The internet chatroom jihadists are a bunch of internal timebombs waiting to snap because there's a lotta cognitive dissonance to deal with when the lifestyle and the belief system are so at odds.

    That is why the FBI watches chatrooms... and that is why they caught the one in Dallas. His friends were shocked, because that really *wasnt* the person they knew. They knew the other guy living in that same brain. It's a weird extension of the net environment... the wannabe warriors become legends in their own mind on the net and finally feel they have to prove it. Pretty sad. The guy in Dallas had zero ties to the local Muslim community and they were horrified at his actions.

    THEY, those local law abiding peace loving Muslims, are the real Muslims. They are appalled that internet assholes are hi-jacking their religion and twisting it. They find the actions of people like him "heinous (I quote one that spoke on the topic). The internet warrior wannabes are just suffering from a net-born mental illness, and they need to collectively step away from the keyboards before they ruin their lives like the kid in Dallas did... or worse... actually blow up something like the 60 story office tower he'd targeted.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    MODERATION TEAM.. THIS IS MENJ!!!

    menj1980 and jundullah user is same as VCTech

    Hello... Anyone home?
     
    Mia, Sep 30, 2009 IP
  11. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #71
    Menji is one of the few muslims that posts here who actually follows the religion of pieces. I say let him be just change his name back to menji980 so we know who we are dealing with.

    Sorry Rob he is allowed by his religious belief to lie to the infidels, so don't try to make him feel bad, that won't work.
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #72
    I have to agree with this. Its the deception or intent to deceive that appears very disingenuous.

    So long as we all know we are talking to Menj, I say let the shister continue to tout his repugnant message.

    The sad reality here is that Menj has not duped those that see through his deception. He's undermined the moderation team here and has rubbed their faces in it.
     
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  13. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #73
    What message? Did i miss it?
     
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  14. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #74
    Maybe you did, Thraxed. Menj is one the most vocal supporters of the Taliban on DP, who vigorously dismissed the women being murdered by them by calling the women who risked their lives to take the shots we have, as "ignorant bitches." He was among those who supported the notion of marriage to 9 year old girls, by saying, much like New and Polite Teen now, that they are, in so many words, "adults," capable of entering into adult, sexual relationships.

    He calls for strict sharia, worldwide. Of course, he also apparently is into developing porn sites, when he's not creating dupe accounts here on DP, so I wouldn't exactly call his message one of consistency of character.
     
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  15. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #75
    Aw cmon fellas... at this point the guy's probably clean if the mods havent booted him.

    Then again some call me gullible cause I accept that the three posts in this pic had different authors... :rolleyes:
    [​IMG]
     
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  16. hostlonestar

    hostlonestar Peon

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    #76
    What's funny is how a topic about how to end the violence with Jews and Palestinians turned into a flame ware between Islam and the world.
     
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  17. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #77
    C'mon, Rob...just because VCTech/Menj1980/Bloggerman/BlohG brags about sneaking into DP under duplicate accounts, and incites others to do the same, and lies, now, about them....you want to raise the spectre of suspicion, just because there's yet further proof of a whole bushel of dupes?

    Freak. He's clean as a whistle. And he's also a great writer. I mean, c'mon:

    With wonderful elucidation on the point of merit, because a poet just can't be contained:

    Isn't it obvious? I'm personally glad to see such a poet-webwarrior in these here-parts, multiple personalities or not. Sheesh....:rolleyes:
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #78
    The bigger question is. WHY IS THIS GUY STILL HERE? Is there some "Letterman" conspiracy type extortion deal that makes Menj immune to the rules?

    Is anyone actually moderating this place anymore?
     
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  19. new

    new Peon

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    #79
    or may be the guy has joined the 'chosen ones' clan;)
    in this case, you should be welcoming him
     
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  20. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #80
    I think he is already a member of your club.
     
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