The abortion issue

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by anthonyn, May 20, 2007.

  1. #1
    Recently, Pope Benedict delivered a strong anti-abortion message to Brazilians at the
    Start of his first visit to Latin. America, saying that respect for life begins from the moment of conception.

    Do you agree to this above mentioned statement? As a parent, would you kill (abort ) your child on knowing, before conception that it’s a disable one?
     
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  2. CountryBoy

    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    I don't think many people are going to touch this one for fear of the reaction their comments might meet.
    I've got to be honest and say I can understand why expectant mothers, in the knowledge that their unborn child is severely disabled, decide that their quality of life might be so low that abortion is the only option. Another point to remember is that we're talking about the abortion of foetuses here - not children. A foetus is not a viable individual in it's own right - it is wholly dependent on the mother and it has to be her right to decide whether she carries that child to term.
    I do not believe in abortion as a form of contraception.
     
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    #3
    I know that a lot of people disagree, but to me life does begin at conception.

    I don't think that I personally would abort a child because it was disabled, unless maybe if it was so severe that it would be in constant pain or have an entirely miserable life. Then, maybe...

    I think it's hard to be able to say for sure, one way or another, what you would do, unless you are in that situation.

    I would never abort a healthy child (having become unexpectedly pregnant myself, and given birth, I didn't even consider it for a second even though it was a bit of a shock and a somewhat awkward situation), that's for sure!
     
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    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    I'm against it it's a crime is the same as killing a human
     
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    #5
    i would not do such a thing! it's pretty much in human act!
    but then, perhaps giving a child that kind of life is also not a very good thing to do, the child has to fight his way, through out his life!

    if someone dose, i won't really say he is wrong either!
     
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    Well you might call it life, but isn't it a parasite until the moment it can live on its own?
    You're saying it has a right to live.. Even if it can't live on its own?

    Anyways.. I'm not directly for nor against abortion. I'm glad thats one subject I've never had to thinka bout too much.
     
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    A person is not truly alive before it has blood running through it's body, an abortion kills the baby before it gets blood, so its not inhuman and in many cases it's better then the child growing up with a hard life and dieing miserably and feeling the pain.
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    A very black and white mentality. It isn't the same - at the end of the day, just like I said, we're talking about aborting something that isn't actually a viable human life in it's own right. It gets every ounce of it's nutrition and protection from the mother.

     
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    still you are killing life which is already alive. i would be against it
    not a good deed by any means
     
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    I think it has to be conscious to be considered to be a person.

    And this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness
    Self-awareness is the explicit understanding that one exists. Furthermore, it includes the concept that one exists as an individual, separate from other people, with private thoughts. It may also include the understanding that other people are similarly self-aware. Self-awareness remains a critical mystery in philosophy, psychology, biology, and artificial intelligence.

    If they are not self-aware, they are just cells, like the cells on your arm.
    Its just like breaking an egg :) (don't hate me please)
     
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    #11
    Ever killed a bug?
     
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    komirad Well-Known Member

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    I once ran over a chick with my bicycle. (Accidentally)
    Maybe i shouldn't tell the details here :D 1 more infraction to 10
     
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    Thats a very intresting stance on the issue.. Thanks for that information.
     
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    I would hate to bring a disable child into this hell. The responsibility I think I could handle but the child deserves more instead of wishing for a normal life.
     
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    A girl gets raped and ends up pregnant, you want her to keep the child when she CAN'T support it, and would ruin her education & possibly her future. Wow, you guys got STRONG moral code! :rolleyes:
     
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    #16
    I don't believe in killing. What more to an innocent child.

    --Joe
     
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