Thai Muslim Junta block Youtube again

For the second time within one month, the muslim junta in Thailand is blocking Youtube.

For some users, YouTube disappears
– By BangkokPost.com Some Internet users reported on Wednesday morning that Thai authorities appeared to be blocking the popular video site YouTube, perhaps for the second time in less than a month.The block could not be confirmed. Many users were able to access the site; others said they could not reach it.
An Internet engineer in Bangkok, who asked to remain anonymous, said that the block appeared to be at the main Thailand gateway maintained by CAT Telecom, which claims to have a monopoly on all international Internet traffic.
“All traffic to the CAT Internet providers seems to be blocked at CAT’s router,” said the engineer. “It doesn’t help that they only have two (customers) to begin with.”
But most users of one of the two major high-speed Internet services in Thailand were able to reach YouTube as usual as of noon on Wednesday, several hours after other users reported being blocked.
YouTube has many controversial videos concerning Thai politics, but a user uploaded a serious attack on His Majesty the King last Sunday, an act some blamed for the possible blocking of YouTube.
Sitthichai Pookaiyaudom, the minister of information and communication technology, promised early this week to block websites he or his staff considered to be pornographic, offensive to the monarchy or a danger to national security.
Blocking YouTube, which has hundreds of thousands of videos, would be highly controversial, even if offensive clips remain on the site. It already has been criticised as throwing the baby out with the dirty dishwater.
In a similar case last month, many Internet users in Thailand claimed they could not reach YouTube because of a block - but others had no problem reaching the site.
As Post Database writer Don Sambandaraksa wrote about the last YouTube partial outage in his column in today’s newspaper:
NOTE: link is
http://www.bangkokpost.com/Database/04Apr2007_data71.php
“[W]hen something as blatant as censoring YouTube occurred, nobody seems to be responsible for it, or for finding out who did it. The Ministry of ICT (MICT) said it was not their fault while the TOT and CAT also denied responsibility.”

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ict.cyberclean.org

( Sorry! the web site you are accessing has been blocked by ministry of information and communication technology )
http://w3.mict.go.th/ci/blocked.html​

 

they are really smart people now it show just an error page

 

FOUND THIS TIPS AND TRICK IN HOW YOU CAN EVENTUALLY TRACK DOWN THESE CULPRITS


OPEN THOUGHT

Getting a clearer picture of YouTube block

Knowledge is the best tool to fight censors

DON SAMBANDARAKSA

It seems interesting to note than when something as blatant as censoring YouTube occurred, nobody seems to be responsible for it, or for finding out who did it. The Ministry of ICT (MICT) said it was not their fault while the TOT and CAT also denied responsibility.

But the problem was that the block was transient, continually in a state of flux, and lasted for only a matter of hours. As one engineer at an ISP who tried to help analyse the block said, "you can only speculate as to what happened after the fact. What we need is information on the block when it's actually in place."

But after this news hit a couple of weeks ago, many readers came forward to say that the YouTube block was not unique - that strange things had been happing to other web sites, for weeks before that.

One newspaper's web department contacted explained how they first saw something out of the ordinary around two weeks prior to the YouTube block. Their web site was suddenly responding slowly and some users had noted that, in the browser window, instead of the message saying that it was waiting for the domain name in question, it said that it was waiting for a certain numerical IP address belonging to CSLoxinfo, which had nothing to do with them. This new site then spewed out what was effectively a copy of their web site.

Now, to recap for a moment, the YouTube block was done by an HTTP 301 redirect. In other words, the "server" that http://www.youtube.com pointed to was not really the YouTube server, but was a third party machine redirecting the user, first to nowhere, later to the mict.go.th web site.

What was happening to that newspaper's web site, one speculates, is that the same HTTP 301 redirect was happening, redirecting to a server which then probably did some logging and redirected it back to the real server, which is hosted overseas.

Worryingly, such an attack could not happen without the ISP or gateway's cooperation. The fact that it happened at the same time by many different ISPs suggests it happened at the Internet gateway level. For Thailand, the gateway is run by CAT.

Now that we know how, a brief glance at the effects of this technical gobbledygook may be in order. The damage done can be felt in a number of ways. For most, including that newspaper's web site, it was just a slowdown in the already obscenely slow Internet.

For YouTube viewers that Saturday, it meant a block. What few realised is that the same double redirection mechanism can easily be used to watch what we do online. At the very least it can log URLs opened and pair them to IPs, which means a log of who is visiting which web site. A more sophisticated mechanism may even be to eavesdrop on email, passwords and the like.

Hark back to the coup and one recalls that General Sonthi said that anyone eavesdropping on telephone conversations would have their telecom licences revoked. Of course, only geeks use email and credit cards for e-commerce. Real army people use mobile telephones, cash and post armed guards in front of network operations rooms to prevent someone hacking the network and installing a piece of spyware.

Incidentally, rumours are that the MICT once commissioned a major university years ago to build a session hijacking system, though nobody today seems to be willing to confirm its existence.

Could it be that the disruptions of the past month was the result of three of these hypothetical boxes being installed at the International Internet Gateway? Could it be that the only reason that YouTube was blocked was because of the design of the blocking box, which did not differentiate between control traffic and end-user (re-directed, monitored) traffic?

Could it be that once they had hijacked sessions with very high traffic, such as the YouTube site, the box crashed because it could not handle the load and required someone to physically visit the box on Saturday morning to manually reset it?

So what can we do? Taking to the streets in mass protests at Big Brother is one option, but we have been there, done that and it is what led us to this mess to begin with.

The best defence is knowledge. If we can tell when this session hijacking technique is taking place, it will at least make Big Brother think twice.

Firefox and Mozilla users can install a plugin, live HTTP headers from livehttpheaders.mozdev.org. This will, as its name suggests, show the actual HTTP dialogue between the browser and server in real time. What this means is that, if it is redirected via the HTTP 301 redirect message or communicating with a server it should not be talking to, it will be made clear to see.

Once the IP address of the man in the middle is identified, programs such as nmap (http://www.insecure.org) can be used to probe and fingerprint that node. Users should then talk about it in public fora, compare notes from the http headers and nmap results and then, with enough information, perhaps the finger of blame can finally be pointed at someone with proof, rather than just a couple of bits of circumstantial evidence and a lot of speculation.

 

That's what it shows now for Thailand when you go to www.youtube.com
Wonder if Thailand will be sued over this or even get their govts IP addresses revoked.

Server Error in '/' Application.
Runtime Error
Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine.

Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on remote machines, please create a <customErrors> tag within a "web.config" configuration file located in the root directory of the current web application. This <customErrors> tag should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off".

<!-- Web.Config Configuration File -->

<configuration>
<system.web>
<customErrors mode="Off"/>
</system.web>
</configuration>


Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error page by modifying the "defaultRedirect" attribute of the application's <customErrors> configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL.

<!-- Web.Config Configuration File -->

<configuration>
<system.web>
<customErrors mode="RemoteOnly" defaultRedirect="mycustompage.htm"/>
</system.web>
</configuration>

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4SRyffEbJ50 this is the video i guess ...i do not know i can not see it

 

Give people a taste of freedom, they might actually want more of it.

 

seeing in meanwhile the third version of a hijacked Youtube in Thailand today. It shows youtube domain in the browser but the sites is from the govt.



RIGHTCLICK AND CLICK PROPERTIES

IN OTHER WORDS, THE WHOLE WEBSITE WITH A NICE PR8

THAI GOVERNMENT STEALS YOUTUBE

Youtube's new Banner pop up


is this legal???

 

Haha some governments are too afraid of true freedom no wonder they hate the USA

 

My country has blocked Youtube over a similar reason for a while as well (opened after a week or two when they removed it)

Reason is; when someone uploads a fictionary video about Bush being executed instead of Saddam, the video is removed within 24 hours - they don't have a big ambition about freedom of speech under those circumstances, on the other hand; when there's a hateful video uploaded, containing hate, swear, insults etc. towards another country, they just keep it in terms of "freedom of speech" which is a big hypocracy. So Youtube isn't any different than any other Media Channel, so they are supposed to follow some rules as well. If they abuse their popularity to let other countries be insulted where they have no tolerance for insults towards their hometown, surely some countries may block them.

They are just a video website with many strong competitors, if they don't treat everyone fairly, they may lose their popularity by time, which that policy to serve everybody equally was what made them so popular in the first place. There's the difference between being a US website and a global website.

 

Yea i get your drift, if a video is uploaded with an infidel having his head removed then it's against those crazy people who like it, so there's no freedom of speech for them.

If youtube can't play fair then those countries would support such things should block their people from viewing their content, makes sense.

 

I'm sorry i didn't get what you say exactly, what i'm saying is; upload the same hateful video with different starrings, one is towards US and one is towards another country, those 2 aren't treated very same by Youtube, which is hypocratic.

PS: Every country has it's rules about the media, media can't spead hate, there's no freedom for spreading hate, those countries' local media is a subject to these laws so Youtube is a subject as well, being global does not mean you can ignore laws.

 

It was the same thing your saying not to worry.

 

If you can find the link to the youtube video

use a youtube downloader to download the video directly from the servers.

Nothing wrong with a little suppression though. keeeps people in line. Especially them women folk! j/k

 

Your downloader doesn't work

Nevertheless, the muslim junta leader and his buddy are on a jihad as it is exposed. This style is very similar to the mujahedeen styles we know of.

If they have an issue they have to follow the legal way, Google and Youtube are usually very cooperative. There's no excuse for hacking digital properties and even businesses of others. It is a criminal act commited by Thai authorities.

You can access Youtube via proxy. If you don't know how, since most of the proxies are also blocked, drop me a note with your email address and I'll send you the file to download it to your mobile drive.

 

are you a liiiiitle but MUSLIM hater now i mean sure he is a Muslim but not the rest of them.

 

Arnie does the site not load for you or the actual downloader doesnt work?

I havent gotten complaints from anyone else/

 

If you follow up the fingerprints of islamic characteristics then you'll find out what I mean.

Even that video you pointed out is not against the HMK but against Thais in general and the USA as well as the rest of the world, I'm certain sure that it was a mujahedeen setting up this video. Check the messages that come from the southern terrorists.

It's simply a setup to provoke, but not even close to justify reactions like this. This could and likely will proof costly for Thailand when acting like buffulos. It's suggested to follow the legal way and to talk with Youtube/Google.

Following up the development in Thailand I must say that I'm getting more and more concerend abot HMK's safety and so should you.

 

Mubin, I tried it with a Thai IP and it doesn't work.
Failure: cannot get download url...

 

Check the messages that come from the southern terrorists.

sorry did not have any message from them today maybe they call me tomorrow

 

Yellowberry, you should read more about the tactics of jihad, this to your post above

Thailand slammed for YouTube block

(BangkokPost.com, Agencies) - A media rights group criticised the government's decision to ban video-sharing website YouTube over an insulting clip of His Majesty the King, saying that such an act showed a growing crackdown by the military junta against political comment online.

The Southeast Asian Press Alliance said that although the subject of HM the King was culturally sensitive in Thailand, blocking the entire site raised serious concerns.

"Thais are now deprived of a popular and accessible medium that can accommodate alternative and independent voices," it said in a statement.

"There is a growing spectre of intolerance toward web-based media as a whole. The Internet is vulnerable in Thailand, and not just when it comes to material pertaining to the king," it said.

Information and Communication Technology Minister Sitthichai Pookaiyaudom said he ordered a block of the entire site from Thailand after Google (which owns YouTube) has rejected the minitry's repeated requests to withdraw the clip, and that the ministry has filed to block the offending page last week.

"We have told them how deeply offended Thais were by the clip, but they said there was much worse ridicule of President Bush on the site and they kept that there," Mr Sitthichai told Reuters. "Since Google has rejected our repeated requests to withdraw the clip, we can't help blocking the entire site in Thailand," said Mr Sitthichai.

He added that the government would decide to withdraw the ban when they withdraw the clip.