Text Link Scams - Professionals Only

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by clasione, Feb 9, 2005.

  1. #1
    I came accross an extreamly interesting development today.

    While answering some questions for a former client that is learning the importance of text link marketing.... I'm suspecting there could be a bit of funny business going on with a large text link marketing brokerage....

    I'm not going to reveal company or the target site selling the ads.... ( Major Media Company in the US - Pagerank 8 )

    Atleast - not yet... We'll see....

    But I want some input from all of you on your thoughts as we may make an industry development come to light.

    When a company sells text link ads - their performing a service and getting paid for it... But if they are taking advantage of the novice.... That's malisiously vindictive, and I'll be the first to point it out if I find something like that..

    "The client" came to me to show me why the text link that they purchased (hundreds of dollars) is ony displaying in a firefox browser but not in IE....

    Really weird.... So I took a deeper look at the source....

    Here are my questions:
    Does anyone think that a seperate CSS attribute should be given to a text link ad and not assigned to normal text links....

    Next - I also found that the text link ads are being defined by margins - which is very suspicious....

    Take a look at the css commands:

    .adlinks { text-indent: -5px; margin-left: 3px; font-family : verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size : 9px; margin-bottom: -15px; text-align:left; }

    No other css attributes on this page of this major site are defined by margins....

    The ad links are also displaying as hidden dashes - do to an error - the latest added text links do not show - out of 9 text link ads - 6 show - 3 do not....

    Here is my second question:

    Is it possible to hide a rel="nofollow" command and assign it to a particluar class like .adlinks - If so, how can this be identified?

    Professional comments please!
     
    clasione, Feb 9, 2005 IP
  2. keywordguru

    keywordguru Peon

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    Finally! Someone else who see's the "fraud" in text brokers.

    About 6 months ago I figured out a little pyramid that a few people have going on and I was SHOCKED to see who it was. Even watched them develop some PR7 and PR8's that they now sell off at top dollar and only months ago were PR0. Nothing totally wrong with that part I guess....but it is cheap in my book.

    A big named SEO that half of you probably read his blog also likes to play with them!!!

    Not fully sure about that stylesheet. I'd have to see it on the site to tell. Otherwise it may just be some type of formatting they use?

    PM me if ya want to push this topic with details
    KG
     
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  3. clasione

    clasione Notable Member

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    Any thought on how I can find the rel="nofollow" command...?

    I feel confident their using it in an external file?

    This should complete my research on this topic....

    Only then can I make the nessasary conclusion...
     
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  4. ResaleBroker

    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    If the page referrences the external style sheet you should be able to download that style sheet.
     
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  5. clasione

    clasione Notable Member

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    I've got it on my desktop... :)

    But is there a way to call that nofollow command from a hidden file?
     
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  6. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    I brought this up somewhere else and I was vilified.

    "I know "so and so" personally and he would never do something like this..."
     
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  7. clasione

    clasione Notable Member

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    I hope not, that would be terrible....
     
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  8. keywordguru

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    Hmm, definitely sounds fishy. If you have the stylesheet usually you can see anything that is being called, or at least being referenced somewhere along the lines. Is there any other call to a file within the page html?

    PM me the site and i'll take a look.
     
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  9. clasione

    clasione Notable Member

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    Is there any other call to a file within the page html?

    That's exactly what I'm working on...

    I'm going through it tag by tag.....

    The location is confidential until I either finish the research, or I find a violation of ethics....

    But be confident that if I do find something - You'll know about it...
     
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  10. nevetS

    nevetS Evolving Dragon

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    a[rel~="nofollow"] {  
    border: 2px solid #F00;  
    background: #00F;  
    color: #FFF;
    font-weight: bold;
    font-size: large;
    }
    PHP:
    You can use this css with Firefox inside a user stylesheet while surfing to enable you to spot links that have nofollow.

    When you're on the page you want to check, right click Web Developer --> css --> Add User Style Sheet
    select the css file (saved from above) and you should instantly see if there are any..

    alternatively, just to be sure...
    Add the following to the end of the LAST stylesheet being referenced in the page, using the webdeveloper->css->edit css command.
     
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  11. clasione

    clasione Notable Member

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    I been ripping through the code for hours downloading jvs, etc. - I can't find anything....

    Should be ok - But I didn't get to try the above tactic....

    I'm in Mozilla and IE - client in Firefox.....

    I thought they were the same and I don't seem to have an option for:
    Web Developer --> css --> Add User Style Sheet

    closest thing I've got to it looks like:
    Tools --> Web Development --> Javascript Console

    I think I'm done..... I know you guys are probably dying to see it - But I don't want to be the one to point them out if I can't find anything wrong.....
     
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  12. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    #13
    The whole notion might be relevant in terms of nofollow if bots were actually parsing css ?

    I've seen nothing in terms of standards that provide for it either.

    I wouldn't be concerned unless the attribute appears in the href tag itself.. on the main page.

    As for the margins you describe etc. The first thing you need to do is check if theres an additional attribute in the href, or unique tags around the href.. ie <div x> or the like.. If there is, then simply look for that attribute in the css.


    Cheers,

    JL
     
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  14. Juls

    Juls Well-Known Member

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    I find it so tempting to use some of these professional link builders but at the same time am worried about them scammers. lol i am not experienced enough to know when it is a scam or not but the opportunity for someone to do it professionally for me is great. too bad i can find a reasonable yet trust worthy individual or company.
     
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    Aurelius25 Peon

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    There is relative command of nofollow to blockade any spam comments and messages so you can block any backlink finder from your blogs and websites
     
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