Texas Authorities Raid Polygamist Compound(400 kids taken from a polygamist compound)

There is no law against marrying old man as long as among the adults, is there? and the only case that you have talked about it was a 19 years old man which is not very old.

Why is it irrelevant that they waited 4 years, weren't children hurting during that time?

They could have set up an office with trained professionals, bring the families in one by one and talk with Children, it is not very hard to see signs of the child abuse both physical or emotional and then handled each case individually. That is what social services all over the world do on daily basis in a real world.

It is very easy to surrender to group mentality and jump on the band wagon of Media or authority and attack the latest unfortunate group be it Muslims, Mormons, Jews or blacks as we have seen in regard to Muslims and post 9/11 as a mob but a lawful society is very different than mob lynch mentality. Obviously you can not see the difference.

 

@stOx
I remember Bush saying " you with us or against us"

you sounds Like G.W.bush any chance of having genetic relation?

everyone who try to correct you , you accuse him .

 

In English?

The main conviction so far involved a 14 year old girl and a 19 year old man. but the allegations are of cases where girls as young as 14 were married to men 50+. There have also been previous convictions of men at this cults ranch for sex with underage girls, One man convicted was an ex policeman.

That's what they have done. As the ranch is currently being used to hold suspected paedophiles and is being searched the "office" had to be set up elsewhere. The girls were taken there with their mothers for questioning.

Awww, the poor paedophiles... My heart bleeds for them

 

Awww, the poor Japanese... My heart bleeds for them.

Awww, the poor black... My heart bleeds for them.

Awww, the poor Jews... My heart bleeds for them.

Awww, the poor fags... My heart bleeds for them.

Awww, the poor terrorists... My heart bleeds for them.

Awww, the poor Muslims ... My heart bleeds for them.

The problem with mob mentality and lynch mob justice as you support is that it never stops in one group.

 

Wow, Did you really just equate blacks, Jews, "fags" and the Japanese with paedophiles? You know what a paedophile is, right?

Keep digging, We can still see you...

 

Just now without any proof, is just a label, so a mob can justify to hang them high. It has been done to Mormons before, last time they used the polygamy as an excuse but probably it won't cut it this time, so it is a more useful label right now.

 

It has nothing to do with mormonism. These people just happen to be mormons.

This "I'm being victimised because of my religion" bullshit doesn't really work when they are being accused of raping children. Nobody gives a shit about their silly little cult, We are far more concerned with them having sex with children. And you should be too.

 

Accused is not the same as guilty, anyone can be accused of anything. They should have the same rights as anybody else who is accused of anything independent of what you are "concerned" with. It wasn't long ago that American administration was using the same type of BS, we are "concerned" with Americans safety to justify imprisoning and torturing people without any trial. No kind of "concern" justifies to tramp on individual rights and disregard the lawful procedures in a criminal matters.

 

Nobody said accused is the same as guilty, and they do have the same rights. anyone who is accused of sexually abusing children is investigated and anyone the police suspect of sexually abusing children is questioned.

What rights do you suppose they have? The right to not be investigated when they are suspected of abusing children? Nobody is going to be locked up unless they are convicted based on the evidence. If they have done nothing wrong then no evidence will be found.

Considering that more than one member of this cult has been convicted of child abuse, Including it's "prophet", They have to take allegations seriously and they have to act on suspicions.

 

Sect Mothers Appeal to Texas Governor
The mothers of children removed from a polygamous sect's ranch in West Texas after an abuse allegation are appealing to Gov. Rick Perry for help, saying some of their children have become sick and even required hospitalization.

In the letter, a copy of which was obtained by The Associated Press, the mothers from the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints also say children are "horrified" by physical examinations they have undergone while in state custody.

"We were contacted and told our homes had been raided, our children taken away with no explanation, and because of law enforcement blockade preventing entering or leaving the ranch, we were unable to get to our homes and had no-where to go," it said. "As of Wednesday, April 9, 2008, we have been permitted to return to our empty, ransacked homes, heartsick and lonely."

The mothers said they want Perry to examine the conditions in which the removed children have been placed.

"You would be appalled," the letter said. "Many of our children have become sick as a result of the conditions they have been placed in. Some have even had to be taken to the hospital. Our innocent children are continually being questioned on things they know nothing about. The physical examinations were horrifying to the children. The exposure to these conditions is traumatizing them."

Full text : http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080414/D901BAIO0.html

 

On the radio this morning, I found out the state is trying to take custody of all 415 children (I think that is all of them). I think they want to take them away from their parents completely and let the state raise them. It is a heartbreaking situation.

 

I think it is not right solution taking away children from their parents at all. This situation will be traumatizing, and make children sick.

 

I think being raised by the state would make a child feel empty. Sort of like you don't really belong anywhere and no one loves you. The state doesn't love you, your just a number. You're right, they would probably feel so bad and miss their parents. If they are being forced into marriages and sexually abused though, they need protection. I think seperating a child from their parents should always be a very last resort.

 

Finally some one with a common sense.

 

Yeah it probably would.... But then, So would being raped by an old man.

Let's not let random untruths that we heard cloud reality though. The children have not been taken by the state, They are not in care and they are not being raised by anyone else. The women and children have been moved to another location while the police question the men and search the ranch. No doubt some will eventually be taken in to care, But that will be for their own good.

 

Are you looking at Texas and people involved through your remote camera?
It must be comforting to always believe in the government, it removes the need for thinking.

 

yeah that must be it gworld. Everything that is in the news than you disagree with is a result of a conspiracy.

 

Nobody said it is conspiracy but any sane person understands that children life can be effected by going through such experience as removal from their home and seeing their parents under such pressure. Also any sane person understands that individuals should not be subject to search and seizure without any evidence of any crime committed by them. A real court of law will never sign a search warrant against an individual just because police "suspect" them of a crime (commonly referred to as fishing expedition) but when it comes to groups that stand outside of what society thinks as "norm" then the laws are thrown out of the window.

 

it's almost like waco again...minus the tanks and the guns

 

firstly i agree a childs life can be effected by being removed from their home, But it can be effected more by being raped and beaten by a filthy old man. What do you think would be more damaging? Being removed temporarily from the family home or being constantly raped and beaten?

Secondly the ranch wasn't searched on a "suspicion". It was searched as a result of information gathered by a child ringing an abuse hot-line and by an informant.

I still fail to understand why you are so adamantly against the investigation of child abuse. Any particular reason why you wouldn't want child molestation allegations investigated?