Texas Authorities Raid Polygamist Compound(400 kids taken from a polygamist compound)

First of all plz no personal insults! if you cant disscuss as a mature person this place is not for you.


second there was some few people doing those acts so you can not stamp all religion!
why its this hard for you to get it right!

and no you dont know really what polygamy means.
polygamy means having many wifes and its in islam , budhism christianity..
and it does not mean abusing children.

btw you dosnt make much sense anymore ...

 

For a man of god you are certainly reluctant to condemn the sexual abuse of children. Any particular reason for this?

You made the statement; "US should respect freedom of speech and freedom of relegion [sic]" (your words).
Now, I will ask you again. Should they respect a religious group when that religious group are guilty of paedophilia? If you had even a shred of integrity the answer would be easy. But for some reason - a reason known only to yourself - You don't seem able to condemn the paedophilia committed by this particular religious group.

I had to quote that last bit just for the irony of the statement.

 

ah good you learned some lesson boy.

lets the teaching began again:

Those acts commited by a few individuals not a the whole religion.

if they find proof that some individual has commited such bizare acts they should send those individuals to jails .

but instead they blackmailing the religion itself.

the same thing with islam!

When a muslim commit a crime they call immediatly "muslim terrorist" and link it to islam and whole muslim world.

 

So, Again, Should that religious group be "respected" if they are guilty of paedophilia? The religious group in question routinely marry underage girls to filthy old men. their leader is in prison for being an accomplice to the rape of a 14-year-old girl. Should he be respected? Do they deserve respect?

I think perhaps you should have read the article before claiming that people should respect religious groups. People aren't entitled to "respect" just because they happen to be a member of a religion, and if you spent as much time reading articles as you do demanding "respect" perhaps you wouldn't have found yourself in the unfortunate position of defending paedophilia and child rape and claiming that these people should be "respected".

 

where do you get those facts? Atheist monthly?! lol


you can not condemn all Mormons just because a few commited such acts!
and dont try to link a few people to whole religion!
and you are keep repeating same old thing.
reply when you learn something new otherwise don´t waste my time.

 

Erm, The article linked to in the original post. Like i said, You should probably have read it before attempting for form an opinion on it.

I didn't.. I have said on countless occasions that i am talking about this particular religious group. The group who you think should be respected and the group who routinely marry underage girls to old men and whose leader is in prison for being the accessory to rape of a 14 year old girl.

 

It is an interesting thing that some here are trying to defend this group and their right to practice child rape... even more odd is that some think that they must defend this group as part of their defense of Islam. Whatever.

Child rape is not a religion it is a sick crime.

 

no one defending child rape.

rape is a crime its against a child of mature doesnt matter.

those are Mormons and not all mormons rape children.
If a few commited such acts they should be sent to jail not all religion.

Why they not ride all catholic church and close them down too?
because those priests practice almost everyday some kind of rape.

how it come this religion has been for almost 100 years in US and they just now find out the rape?!!

and how it come they couldnt find the 16 years old girl who called them yet?

 

This is not about Mormons. This is about a small group of people who choose to practice a form 'religion' that is wrong because it is basically a system of organized child rape where girls in puberty are married to older men and told to have sex or go to hell.

So what exactly are you supporting here with all your posts?

 

have you been an ex member?!

how you so sure they all practice such acts?!

btw they are a branch of Mormons.

 

He asked you a question.

 

I don't understand why do you insist to blame Mr_2 for something he hasn't said.

1) I don't like any religion including Mormons but it is ridiculous to claim that these people are not Mormons. They are actually the one who believe in original teaching and if we want to compare to Christianity, they are the Catholics.

2) Mr_2 never talked about child rape or pedophilia, he asked about polygamy which simply means having multiple wives. This is illegal in USA and this law is simply based on "morality" since it takes away the individual (adult) right to enter to any kind of civil contract (this is what marriage is) that they wish to arrange.

3) It is true that this sect is arranging marriage for teenagers in their group but that fact itself is less significant since the age of sexual consent and even the age of marriage in many U.S. states is about 15-16 years old. I do not think anyone has accused them of marrying a five years old, so if you think that marrying a 16 years old is pedophilia then you should campaign to change the laws in most U.S. states.

I think every individual in society should have the right to make a free choice and that is what society should provide to every member of these group, so the one who don't agree with, can leave and start a new life but harassing people just because people don't agree with polygamy is stupid.

 

Once you allow gay marriage, where does it stop?

If ten gay guys get married you have to balance it out with polygamy

 

There are many lesbians too, so it balances itself out.

There are more bi-sexual women than men, may be because society doesn't look down at it in the same way.

 

He made the statement that the US should "respect freedom of religion" in a thread that is talking about a mormon sect that routinely marries underage girls to old men and tells them if they don't have sex they will go to hell and whose leader is in prison for being an accomplice to the rape of a child.

I asked him if this religion deserves "respect" and he has yet to answer and instead chooses to evade the question like a coward. Surely to any decent human being the answer should be simple. Surely to anyone with even a shred of integrity the answer should be "absolutely not". it's disturbing that he feels incapable or unwilling to say this.

Just answer one question Mr_2. what are you opinions of men who marry children?

 

I think you misunderstood him, he was talking about freedom of religion in regard to polygamy which is accepted by many religions including Judaism and Islam.
What is your opinion about that? Should be freedom of religion and acceptance of polygamy for those who practice it or should government impose it's moral code on all religions?

 

This is condemned , but don't link the whole religion to what a few peoples act. Most people who commite shameful acts such as raping , abuse etc.. are those who have no beliefes and faith.

 

Personally i think consenting adults should be allowed to do whatever they want with each other. regardless if it's because of religion or not. People certainly shouldn't be given concessions because they have a religion and allowed to do things that aren't permitted to the rest of us though.

AGAIN.... I didn't say it was representative of a whole religion. i made it clear, Multiple times, that i am speaking about this particular sect. A sect which routinely married young women to filthy old men.

That is your opinion, Albeit a worthless opinion unsupported by any factual data. But still, An opinion. personally i think perverts and criminals are drawn to religion because it gives them a system to abuse and an excuse should they get caught.

A quick look at the percentage of religious people in prison compared to the percentage of religious people in the general public show, if anything, That the religious are more likely to be criminals. I can get the statistics for you if you want.

So do you condemn as shameful all men who marry children?

 

haahhaahahah you just proved something about yourself

 

it's a simple question.