Terrorist Attack! (Jan 8th, 2011) no thread, coz it was not by Muslims?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Vebtools, Jan 9, 2011.

  1. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #61
    I mentioned it, just case someone goes to fish for what you was asking for.

    :)
     
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  2. imad

    imad Peon

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    #62
    first you said no Jewish terrorist attack on American soil in the past 25 years or no Jew has committed a terrorist act on US soil since 1986

    then later after you have realized there was, you changed it to:

    no Jewish terrorist attack on American soil in the past 10 years or the only terrorist attacks on US soil in this century have been done by leftist organizations and Islamists ( No Jews)

    I like the progress for two things:

    1- After you realized that not all Muslims are terrorists (example you assuming you are Muslim, or are you terrorist?) you do realize now that not all terrorists are Muslims ( according to you we have at least leftist in this century, not long ago in your posts Muslims were the only terrorists)

    2- Now we are talking about 10 years period only (from 2000 to end of 2010), to try to convince the readers that there is no Jewish terrorism ( at least on US soil)

    what about else parts of the world, were there Jewish terrorism?
    and what about the period before this century, were there Jewish terrorism?

    I m really interested to know what happened in world that made Jewish people stop terrorist acts in the past 10 years on the soil of their best friend and ally (US) despite their history is FULL of so many terrorist acts before that period and YES, on the soil of their best ally and friend USA, without mentioning the so many acts of spying, (gee man, you do not hear about a Lebanese Hezballah member for example doing terrorist acts on the soil of Iran, their best friend and ally, but you hear about Israeli terrorist acts on US soil)

    and also despite terrorism has been a part of their tradition as they themselves say (not me)


    you are trying to exclude the periods where the Jews and JDL (Jewish defense league) were active, or not listed in the FBI list to tell indirectly that terrorism is done by Muslims and leftist only in this century, trying to make the problem of terrorism as something that only appeared this century not before,

    well the JDL is active even in this century as I will show you below.

    google JDL (Jewish defense league) which was at some period the number 2 most active terrorist organization in USA, and find for what it's chairman and another member (Irv Rubin and Earl Krugel) In 2002, been arrested and charged by FBI, you may say, they are not listed in that link you posted, you are right, they been (mysteriously murdered) before their trial, I bet they are somewhere now in occupied Palestine having some fun and exchanging jokes about Americans while laughing their a$$ off, after the JDL paid for their "freedom" ;)


    now what? let me guess: all terrorists acts since 2003 are done by Muslims? and there is NO Jewish terrorist act on US soil since 2003.

    let me know if you need help, good luck.
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #63
    You must be all of 12, or at least have the education of a 12 year old. First you claim I need to read your posts while you claim not to have read mine. A page of posts later, you still haven't read the sources to your own posting and you have a basic reading comprehension problem understanding mine. Here it is again, in black and white, using the smallest words I can use.

    1) No Jewish terrorist attack on American soil in 25 years
    2) No terrorist attacks(according to your source) on American soil in this century(the last 10 years) that were not Leftist or Islamist
    3) No casualties or injured people from terrorist attacks on American soil in this century that were not Islamist in origin.

    There is no conflict or contradiction in any of those facts obtained from links that you posted.

    If you want to change the topic to the JDL, or terrorist attacks abroad, after having thoroughly embarrassed yourself with your own statistics, I completely understand. What would be far more impressive is for you to acknowledge the very real problem of radicalization that is happening in Muslim communities world wide, a problem made very clear by the sites you provided.

    Closing your eyes and saying, "the problem doesn't exist" does not help my Muslim brothers in the slightest. Attempts to shift focus off the problem in your own community by focusing on the Jewish Defense League, Jared Loughner, or the Earth Defense League, makes you part of the problem, not part of the solution.

    Apparently you don't keep up with the news:
    Iran seems to have no problem assassinating members of the Lebanese parliament, or the prime minister himself, or forcing the Lebanese government to collapse. Best friends you say? Your JDL comparisons are meaningless as the US had classified the JDL as a terrorist organization(just like Al Queda), where as Hizbollah was a respected part of the Lebanese government

    It is also important to note that we don't equate the JDL with Jews any more than we equate Muslims with Islamists. There are 6.5 million Jews in America, almost none of which belong to the JDL, and nearly all of which deplore terrorism. The same can be said for the nearly 7 million Muslims in America, most of whom deplore terrorism and the Islamist goat f*ckers that are causing all this trouble.

    Any intelligent person focusing on the problems that face us today, not the Jewish Defense Leagues activities of 25 years ago. I'll admit that terrorism is not a recent problem, but if you look at the trend lines in the victims from terrorism, they are going way up and it is nearly all coming from Islamists.
     
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  4. Helvetii

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    #64
    Not all Muslims are terrorist but (nearly) all terrorists are Muslim. Its settled.
     
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  5. IsraeI

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    #65
    There is a reason why "some" Muslims resort to terrorism, and that is because their lands are being occupied by illegal aliens, those same aliens, destroy entire cities, infrastructures, they kill people, they terrorize in a way far worse.

    The wall said to the nail: "why are you making a hole in me", the nail said: "ask the one that is hammering me".

    If you have not understood this saying, then the "nail" is the terrorist, the "wall" is the one being terrorized and "the hammer" is what motivates the terrorist.

    And what motivates the terrorist is USA and co, they started the illegal occupation of Palestine, they invaded Iraq for no reason, they invaded Afghanistan for no reason. So if you really care about peace, I suggest removing your troops out of our lands, mind your own business and you will have no problems hopefully.

    And despite all this, Muslim terrorism is still magnified so that politicians can win public support in some of the illegal wars, there are many terrorists around the world that don't get this much attention.

    PS: Islaam does not allow terrorism, but "some" Muslims, a minority will engage in these acts for the reasons that I have already mentioned.

    :)
     
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  6. ApocalypseXL

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    #66
    So shia in iraq are aliens to the sunni . Thanks i didn't knew why the where slaughtering each other whit suicide bombings .

    Islam doesn't just allow terrorism , it's the handbook itself .
     
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  7. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #67
    Islam does not allow terrorism. Agreed. How then can we call those who engage in terrorism Muslims? Answer: They are not. In your post above with your justification for Muslims to carry out terrorism, you effectively admitted to not being a true Muslim. Congratulations. Not like its news, but its good to hear it from you directly.
     
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  8. ApocalypseXL

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    #68
    According to the study mentioned by CNN islamic terrorism is a "significant" thread . Also the study was taken down from the academic network so the original data is unavailable AFAIK . This usually happens when a published paper is deemed unscientific , such studies are usually performed by statisticians or professors working in departments of law or by geographers specialized in demographics . This study was made by two professors of Islamic studies who are Muslims themselves and long time campaigners - this study is at best biased and whit missing data (link the data if you have them) .

    Furthermore you exaggerate the numbers by trowing in the number "94%" a number whit no backup . Next time when you try to lie whit statistics make sure that you're trying to lie to goatherders and illiterates otherwise you make yourself look like a lying hypocrite .

    This time your 2 bit website really fails . You try to cherry picking data but even so you fail simply because there is no relevant data . The number 99.6% is pulled out of the ass . But then again fundamentalists like you are known to hide the truth .


    To shed some light on the issue , the problem lies whit the fact that despite a decade of intense action radicalization is growing at a ever increasing pace . This will result in more and more terrorists . To make matter worst the muslim majority supports this idiots , while the number of active , official supporters doesn't exceed 50% the number of silent supporter makes up a crushing majority of muslims .

    Add that the fact that most of muslims in E.U. and U.S. identify themselves as muslims first rather then as citizens and you have yourself a gargantuan problem .

    On the same issue most of the drones that you talk for don't know the fact that Muslim terrorists destroyed the WTC . It's stupid and funny not to know geography . It is unacceptable not to know history .

    The evidence was shown to you time and time again but the blind can't see the colors of a Matisse painting .

    Ahh the classical "blame it on the Juice" . When will you take responsibility that your brothers (Muslims) are terrorists and that the Jews are not ? Israel ain't the best place in the world but it sure beats Iran , Iraq , Egypt or Pakistan . Propagandists like you tried to make Jews scapegoats for all the evil in the world .

    When will you learn that this propaganda only hurts the muslims community and makes people thing that you are special persons ? Take example from the muslims here that aren't wackos . No one is asking you to autoflagellate but stop seeing conspiracies everywhere - they don't exist .
     
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  9. IsraeI

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    #69
    I don't believe you are a Muslim.

    But I will answer you question anyway:

    We cannot call the one who engages in a terrorist act to be a non-Muslim, this would make him a "sinner" not a non-Muslim.

    Sins (as long as they don't reach polytheism) do not take you outside of the fold of Islaam.

    :)
     
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  10. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #70
    You don't believe most of the population of Iran is Muslim, so who really cares what you believe.

    Interesting argument. You support and promote what is clearly labeled a sin in Islam, but prefer to be called a Muslim sinner than a non-Muslim. Do you think it will lighten the penalties for your sins, in this life or the next?
     
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    #71
    there are lots of psychos out regardless the nation
     
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  12. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #72
    There is no justification for ANY terrorist acts.

     
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  13. IsraeI

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    #73
    Yet, another lie, I don't believe the entire population of Iran is non-Muslim, I don't see why you keep lying in order to make your little points.

    Their is a difference between the one that is a sinner, and the one that is non-Muslim, the latter goes to hellfire forever, while the former can go to hell, but not forever, and if forgiven he does not even get punished.

    Thanks for YOUR opinion.

    As for me, I think it's natural that if someone slaps you in the face, you will slap him back automatically (in general).

    The shia and sunni in Iraq is an internal conflict, one which is non of your business, we can deal with it on our own, we don't need any illegal aliens for support.

    :)
     
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  14. ApocalypseXL

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    #74
    They already have no support . The US troops are in their bases . Last time you lied that you're in Quatar , now you've suddenly become a citizen of Iraq ? And since when is sunni killing shia called a internal conflict not a religious conflict ? Or should i assume you jihad is just a physiological conflict (ignore the Coran) not something ordered upon by Islam .

    When you're replying try not to sound like you're talking to a ignoramus . I know your actions and religion . If you want to have a bit of credibility try having some form of decent arguments .
     
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  15. IsraeI

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    #75
    LOL, I'm not a citizen of Iraq.

    Again stick your nose out of it.

    PS: You are a paranoid ignoramous, you have no clue about my religion or the affairs of the world.
     
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    #76
    Yes you're blessing on the world , not a little failure of a propagandist , desperate to spread his twisted view by all means necessary (terrorism , propaganda , lying , spreading conspiracy theories , sweet-talk and anything you can think of) . Funny is that the harder you push the more will push back . Your dreams of a new caliphate will turn to ashes .
     
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  17. IsraeI

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    #77
    As I have pointed out before, you are paranoid, seriously visit your nearest doctor for some medication.

    :)
     
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    #78
    After I'll see no more threats to freedom then i'll drop my guard ;)
     
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    #79
    Thanks for explicitly acknowledging your terrorist sympathies (tho obvious anyway). Now nobody has to guess.
     
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  20. IsraeI

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    #80
    Since when is trolling on internet forums a way of guarding Romania?

    I never expressed any sympathies.

    :)
     
    IsraeI, Jan 17, 2011 IP