Terrorist Attack! (Jan 8th, 2011) no thread, coz it was not by Muslims?

When you try to destroy a persons habitat and tell him it's ok , it's the right way and try to smooth talk him you might be able to make him not take your head off . But anger is building up and that is more dangerous then a nuke . Apply the same process to a nation and you'll get a lot of violence .

Liberalism stupidity and over-tolerance in the last decades has managed to build up an incredible amount of anger . And instead of doing something to cure the underline conditions they continue the same old bull "whit everything is wrong we're victims " . When the liberals will grow balls and come up whit ideas then their ideology might have a future . Right now liberalism serves two roles to temper Conservative politics and to make incredibly stupid laws and remarks . Unfortunately they seem to love doing the second .

 

Is America to blame? Why is it liberals always have someone to blame, and it is never the person actually responsible for these acts.

Your MSNBC clip was pretty representative of the coverage this is getting on that station. I guess they didn't listen to the President's speech:

Of course that didn't stop MSNBC from running a 24/7 news cycle yesterday that placed blame directly on the discourse in an effort to score some cheap political points. To me, it seems like a huge gamble when nearly 60% of Americans feel the political discourse had nothing to do with this tragedy. They risk coming off as hate merchants, running at full steam in the wake of this tragedy, and in opposition to the presidents words and popular opinion. Can that really be good for ratings? I'm sure Bushranger didn't change the channel.

 

Yes that would be violence and terrorism don't you think?

Violence: An unjust or unwarranted exertion of force or power, as against rights or laws

No, what I said was that if someone went out killing every goat he could find just because of his ideology that goats shouldn't exist at all, then it would be terrorism.

If an army is in a war to defend the country then it would be self-defense and not terrorism, similarly if they are engaging in violence to enforce existing law and order in their own territories then also it wouldn't be terrorism, the aggressor in most cases IMO would classify as a terrorist. But anyways my definition is supposed to be the moral definition of what should classify as terrorism and not a criminal definition.

 

Er, that was not a terrorist attack. That was some loon with serious issues.

What exactly is the point of this thread?

 

I thought this was interesting. Loughner had an account on Earth Empires forum, and has posted frequently under username "Dare".

 

indeed, nobody mentioned it, and you can view this even in the posters comments in this thread, like Mia, asking dumbly what is the point of this thread? as it is not mentioning or worth to mention that attack?! but if it was a thread with a title "ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORiSTS" he would so eager to post a big post which can be summarized by "YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH"

knowing that that Americans have not learned yet where is Iran on the Map and did not stop pointing at Australia map when they are being asked where is Iran, I feel not optimistic that the general there will know that:

In America: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 94% that Aren’t

hmmm, and that's knowing that there is like 15 million Jews in the world, and like 1500 million Muslim in the world

In Europe: Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren’t

 

Imad, when you post quotes like that, one on top of the other, it is very misleading. You should make it clear to the readers that:

a) your links are not from CNN but from somebody's blog site
b) Nether CNN, the FBI, or anyone else put out a study showing Jews commit more terrorism than Muslims.

It is flatly dishonest. At least your source was willing to provide links to the sources of their fabrications. For instance, their comparison of "Jewish" terrorism(8%) to "Islamic" terrorism(7%) in the US is based on 18 separate attacks by the Jewish Defense League, all of which occurred prior to 1986, killing 3 and injuring 32. My money says you weren't even born in 1986, so why would you waste your time presenting data that states Jewish terrorism as an existent statistic in the US?

Furthermore, your loonwatch site allocates 42% of terrorist attacks to Latinos based on numerous bank robberies and bank bombings in Puerto Rico, most of which occurred prior to 1985 by leftist groups, and the last of which happened in 1998, by Puerto Rican nationalists.

If they had even wanted to take a shot at making statistically relevant data, they would have used only the data from the last 15 years, and realistically, only the last 10. I also find it very difficult to equate the real danger of these two events, that your loonwatch people treat as equal:

Vandalism and arson gets 6 counts of terrorism, while rolling into an airport and shooting people based on their ethnicity gets you one? Looking at the raw count of "terrorist" activities in the US for the last 10 years, you'll note the Earth and Animal Liberation Front people dominate the list, with lots of vandalism and some arson, but not a single injured person. Islamic terrorism, on the other hand, nearly 3000 dead in the US alone with more than 12,000 injured. You'd have to be stupid to focus on the ELF, the Jewish Defense League, or even nut jobs like Jared Loughner.

On the bright side, I REALLY enjoyed reading the CNN article your site very selectively quoted from. I think you will enjoy it too:

In other words, we Muslims in America are not hiding from the FACT that radicalization of Muslims is the number one terror threat faced by the US and the world right now. In recognition of that fact, we are policing our own communities in support of our government(the USA) to weed out radical elements and Islamists. I would even consider it fair to lump in those who promote Sharia within the US. You need to wake up, Imad, and quit perpetuating the kind of bullshit that holds our Muslim brothers down.

 

umm, I have some hopes, I hope you know where is Iran on the map, if not please check before you ask your government to nuke them, because you may mistakenly ask your gov to nuke Australia,

and I really hope that you know, you should read the article before you comment on it, not just it's URL (if it was CNN then wohoooo it is good, if it was not CNN then yippieeeeeee I caught them lieing) it takes more than reading the URL to know about the article, if you read the article you will find your link to CNN there, and mentioning of other sources like FBI from which they made these conclusions, compare what they have there, with the original sources of these info, then find if what they mentioned is misleading, lies, wrong ... got the point?? in short look deeper than just the URL good luck

and finally I hope you will excuse me for not reading the rest of your post, for obvious reasons some been mentioned above.

 

Just be aware this guy (obamanation) is not a Muslim, he only pretends to be, for propaganda purposes.

 

Because we are living in an age of 'yo!' generation.

 

So you recommend people read your post, but you didn't read mine, even though mine consisted almost entirely of quotes from the links within your post. YOU ARE A GENIUS! Do you read anything you post?

If you had read my post, you would find that not only had I read the sources, but cited them in my post. I cited them because they show both your site and your post from that site are twisting information to mislead. I've never seen a person so bent on remaining ignorant.

Funny accusation, considering you are not a Muslim. I wish you lived in the US so the Muslims of my community could keep a closer eye on you.

Come to my house with that ideology and you'll find me and a large number of my Muslim brothers helping facilitate a nice long stay for you in Gitmo.

 

told you, I did not read more than the first 2 lines of your post which I quoted, even here, I hope you will excuse me for not reading more than the 2 lines above, don't blame me for not taking you seriously, it is you who should be blamed when you ask dumbly where is the CNN study? and when you pretend to be Muslim when you are not, want me to read more, try not to start the post with something so dumb, try to leave it to the end of post,

again, read the articles on that "somebody's site" find the links to CNN and other sources, read the studies done by the university, check their info, see in what % Jews did terrorism acts, and in what % Muslims did, then you hopefully will learn something new.

good luck really, from the bottom of my heart

 

Your articles said Jews have not committed one act of terrorism in the US in the last 25 years while Islamists have killed thousands. Don't read my posts. Read your own articles.

FBI source for Imad's article which tells us Islamist terrorist acts are the only terrorist acts to take a US citizen's life in the 21st century

Oh, and regarding my Muslim status, here are a bunch more Muslims who will tell you the exact same thing I am. Who are you to question my faith? You clearly think the word Muslim means "dumbsh*t uneducated goat f*cker who still thinks he's living in the 8th century". As a devout Muslim, I take offense to that.

 

lol, you know the funniest part is that it seems you actually believe this!

thanks for understanding why I do not take you seriously, not because the identity crisis you have only, but also because your reading skills are not so good (assuming that you actually read the articles):

simply, check the pie chart, it does not require advanced reading skills:



which clearly says below it "Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database"
I know I know, you will say, this pie chart is not by FBI or CNN, yaddaa yaddaaa

here is your reply, from that same page I originally posted

 

Why don't you follow the advice in your own posts? Let me provide you the link again.

Imad's FBI source which tells us no Jew has committed a terrorist act on US soil since 1986

It would seem your math skills may be as impaired as your reading skills. Let me break it down for you. We are in the year 2011. 25 years ago would be 1986. Can you find me a terrorist act the FBI says was committed by Jews since 1986, anywhere in the content of the FBI link YOU PROVIDED? Take your time. These are advanced concepts I know, so I don't want to confuse you with big words or the the advanced math concepts of addition and subtraction.

 

Nice graph.

I already pointed out here that Muslim terrorists are always magnified for political purposes, and I just feel sorry for those lazy people who believe in everything the media feeds them.

 

Terrorism can be as simple as politically motivated property damage, which I suspect a lot of the "Extreme Left Wing Groups" numbers involved (animal rights commies throwing fire bombs at buildings at night when nobody's in them). Your graph measures the percentage of terrorist acts, but not the malice of the acts.

Instead, how about a pie chart showing actual deaths on U.S. soil caused by each of those terrorist categories that you listed? Do you think that the "Islamic Extremists" percentage might change, ever so slightly?

 

No evidence whatsoever that 19 Muslim men have killed 3000 people on 911 and injured 12000.

 

I never even mentioned that in my post. Funny how you thought of it on your own, though.

 

The graph is BS, Law-Dude. He gathers information from the FBI stats, dating back to the problems in Puerto Rico. Read the stats at the bottom of that link and you will see the only terrorist attacks on US soil in this century have been by leftist organizations and Islamists. The only attacks on US soil in this century that have caused a loss of life or injury have been by Islamists. Period.

Israel is an expert at trying to discredit the sources of information for his own graphs, and various other forms of shooting himself in the foot.