Teacher teaching Creationism in science class, brands students

Eternity with christians... can you imagine anything more horrific? Give me nothingness over that any day.
And really, why would anyone want to do anything for eternity? Do you know how long eternity is? eventually you will be wishing for nothingness.

 

As long as the wine is decent...

No, agreed. When life is finite, then it matters.

 

I like reincarnation, infinite do-overs is pretty enticing. Beats the crap out of harp music for me.

 

I get tired of saying, "yep, I know. I heard it before."

 

Infinite do-overs? The universe has a life expectancy but of course we don’t know if it will Bang again giving it immortality but life would cease to exist for a long period of time if not forever..

 

Ah, but that's not the Christian deal.

The Christian deal is eternal worship of God or eternal torment in a godless hell.

Nothingness isn't an option.

Would you like the carrot or the stick?

 

eternal worship of God or eternal torment in a godless hell?

I agree Will, eternal torment either way..

 

do you get to use knee pads at least?

 

Well something hurt you somewhere!!!!

(sorry, I couldn't let that one pass--)

That news clip is gross. That guy needs to be axed. (figuratively....not literally.)

One fascinating little comment in the news piece was how the principal had heard complaints about the guy for 11 years. Yet he was still working there after all those years.

Teachers have a strong immunity against getting fired. That is not good, in my book.

 

Teachers have strong unions.

I remember my sixth grade home room teacher would constantly show up drunk and unwashed to class.

One time he tried to collect an assignment that he had not given to the class and he wouldn't believe the students when they told him that he had never given them the assignment.

Another time he lost (intentionally) my homework and tried to give me corporal punishment (swats) for not turning it in. I refused to comply and I took him to the principals office. After about an hour he broke down and admitted to the principal that he had been lying about receiving my assignments. His new story was that they couldn't be counted because I had turned them in early.

My negotiated "punishment" was doing four more book reports. woop-t-do. As if I wasn't reading a book or two a week at that age anyway.

He did find many other occasions for corporal punishment that year, but it's really hard to beat a 12yr old boy into submission. They're pretty resistant to just about everything.

Eventually the school did get rid of that guy. It's not good when you let a 12yr old successfully interrogate you.

 

Are they sure the burns only skin deep, if its a microwave as some one stated don't they typically burn from the inside out?

 

Hahahahahaha!!!! No, not really. Even I would have to take a pass.

 

Brain washing or teaching? There is nothing wrong with teaching different theories on a subject if several theories are presented on the same subject.

 

There is something wrong when one theory explains a scientific fact and the other is lifted wholesale from religious text. We may as well each kids that the planet if supported on the back of a giant turtle, Where does it end?

What would a lesson be like if they taught both side?
For evolution: scientists believe that the diversity of life arose via natural selection and that environmental pressures selected the organisms which were best suited to that environment. Evidence for this ranges from taxonomic similarities to shared DNA and from IRV remnants to fused chromosomes. We can also see the progress from simple to complex organisms in the fossil record, Which also demonstrates species which are transition form..

Alternative theory: magic man done it.

There is a very important process that ideas go through to become accepted and eventually taught as science. This process takes a a lot of time, a lot of tests and a lot of evidence. creationism want to bypass this process and replace data, evidence and research with political pressure and claims of discrimination.

 

I believe God created everything but I enjoyed studying evolution and the different theories. I was taught and not brained washed. I am a Christian and I have also enjoyed studying different religions and having discussion with the similarities and the difference without arguing who is correct and who is not.

If a subject is taught and different theories are presented there is nothing wrong. A person can make an informed decision regardless of their religion and should be allowed to come up with their on theories.

 

So you would be in favour of taking up valuable time in a childs education to also teach them that the earth is on the back of a turtle? Like i previously asked, where does it end? Is there any crackpot bullshit we shouldn't teach kids?

For things to be taught to children it has to go through a rigorous test. if you would like to do the tests, collect the data, form a theory around the evidence, present it to peer review and wait for others to replicate your results then you are welcome to teach it. Until then, keep it to yourself and out of a science class. Religious ideas aren't entitled to bypass the scientific method.

 

You have a point with the turtle back quote

 

It ends at the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

 

It's possible that what we call life is a very limited view based totally on experience and not really knowledge. Or that sentience and life are not synonyms? Or perhaps our understanding of the universe is limited?

Either way the sadistic teacher needs to do some jail time.

 

I think world religion is a good thing to learn in school. But don't present it as a fact and it probably goes best as an elective. I agree with what you say about facts being presented as facts, theories as theories. I however do think their is a purpose in knowing about things you yourself might not believe in, especially when a lot of those concepts shape the world we live in.