Teacher arrested for letting class call teddy bear Mohammed

As for loss of a right, I would say 'privacy' could be considered to have been "lost".

Just as identity theft is becoming a growing problem, the concern is that the government or others could do something with the information about you to make a change to your life (maybe without you even knowing about it). With the information age, access to so much data, personal privacy should be a concern for everyone.

How about those that collect guns? They often don't want to become part of a national registry out of fear of government intervention.

"It is not a loss of freedom. It's a measure to protect it. [on gun control]" - James Brady

Also, there is a current debate about the human genome. Can someone patent the genes that we share?
Here's some links on it:
Should the Genome be patented?
The Human Genome Gold Rush

 

Did the teacher go to educate Sudanese children as a free humanitarian act? Who send her there?

 

I think Mr Brown should have a word with MI6

 

Try locking up a Muslim for naming a Teddy Bear "Jesus" and see what happens.

 

Probably the same as what happened when someone drew that cartoon - lots of Muslims ending up dead in violent protests across the world.

 

i find this whole case a joke.....its only a teddy bear!!!

 

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/11/30/sudan.bears/index.html

Now there are protesters that want to kill this woman for naming the bear Mohammed!! What kind of people are these????

 

I don't get it. This reads like blasphemy to me:

I thought the guy was just that, a holy person in Islam, to be sure, but a simple human being and not a deity. Forgetting that this woman made no insult - that her kids simply chose the name they most admire, why would one "fight" and spill blood over insulting a human being? Isn't that prohibited as blasphemy in Islam?

Leo, and other muslims - a sincere question. I don't get it and would ask your input.

 

So, I wonder when the teddy bear's trial is going to be???

 

This is why we need to protect our liberties here in the U.S.A. We have these dumb national ID cards, Patriot Act, and all this crap. I will never give up my freedom for security, no matter what.

 

People think differently in other parts of the world. You people should understand, these are closed societies. This is not USA or the West where u take freedom for granted. These societies are closed societies - that means closed to new ideas. There, religion is a very sensitive thing. Even Christians and Jews living there are sensitive to religious provocation.

Their sensitivities have been hurt. But IMO, they are creating a fuss out of nothing. Everything will be alright in a couple of days, i'm sure of that.

 

Nutty people...

And many a KFC will burn!

 

I wish I could feel as you do, gauharjk, but this isn't inconsequential. This woman's head is being asked for in mass protest. Because, factually, her kids named a bear the name of a man they admire.

You mentioned religious sensitivities, among Christians, Jews and Muslims. I do not wish to Islam bash. It is the furthest thing from my mind and my desire. But I do think it needs to be addressed: this woman has done nothing - she hasn't even insulted Mohammed, and her head is being called for and I can only presume she is being terrified beyond imagination over the naming of a bear. That's one thing.

The second is again a sincere question: is insulting the Prophet a thing worthy of death? If so, why? Why isn't this blasphemy? Is it the case that "hurting sensitivities" elicits a death sentence? I can't believe this is what you would really feel and invite dialogue.

 

Well, I guess these people are just hyper-sensitive. They will get over it.

I feel embarrassed by such behavior of my fellow-brother. but you know, they have a pretty limited world-view. They will understand. This was just an innocent mistake, and everything will turn out to be alright.

I don't really have the authority to comment on such a question.

In Islam, the Prophet Mohammad brought the message of God. He came as a saviour to the people of Arabia. He sacrificed a lot so that people hear the message of God. He faced so much hardship, that he is a revered in the Islamic world. And due to the narrow viewpoint of the world, any insult to the prophet is met with violent protests.

Why did Muslims protest when cartoonists in the west were making fun of the holy prophet? That is a big question in the minds of many friends here on DP.

Our Prophet did not allow any picture of him taken. He did not want people to worship him instead of worshiping God. So he forbade is followers from painting any pictures of him. This is a sensitive issue for Muslims. it was in violation of the direct commands of our beloved prophet. I believe that was the reason for the violence.

But in case o this woman, I hope everything will turn out fine, a it was just a mistake.

The mindset of people, the way of thinking, is VERY DIFFERENT. Believe me.

 

Gauharjk - can I ask, are you muslim? If so, can you please tell me what the story is with insulting your Prophet, and how that is handled, in your worldview?

In my mind, none of us has the business of insulting things held sacred by others. But I condemn killing or harming another over it.

 

I think people are making the mistake of not realising how much politics is tied up in all of this. Sudan has a pretty poor relationship with the UK and the rest of Europe over Darfur, this this is it's pretty poor attempt at giving us one in the eye.

I was reading earlier today just how principaled these people are when it comes to religion when politics and power are involved. A Sudanese leader who forced women to wear burkahs had a change of heart and gave them the vote when he realised he'd garner a few extra votes from it.

 

Nah, they just belong to a cult... Their cult both condones, and instructs that they behave this way.. Some take it very serious, other's, do not..

Think of their cult as the Catholic religion (minus the violence, killing, beheading, KFC burning, lashes, etc).. You are not supposed to eat meat on Fridays.. Some of us do, some of us don't... Those that do, take things too serious, or focus on the literal if you will..

In the cult of Islam Extremism, some of these guys take things to the extreme. Their cult says, kill the infidels (that is you and me) if they do something to piss off the cult. The fruit cakes in the cult take these thigns seriously. The rational ones just blow it off and eat their damn meat on Fridays like me!!!

Anything taken too a literal extreme is gonna yield some pretty extreme results..

Nothing to be embarrassed about. Weak minded people tend to be easy targets for cults... There are always going to be people taking advantage of and suckering people into cults like Islamic fundamentalism, Scientology... The list goes on... People with no direction or guidance tend to fall prey to these types of cults. The best thing any of us can do is teach our children to love, not hate, to lead, not follow.. and most of all to be self reliant.

The people in these cults are weak. Weak in mind, spirit and body... They are no different than the mass murderers that go on killing sprees.. Something happened to them at a young age to make them this way. Maybe they got picked on in school, maybe mommy did not hug them enough, who knows.. Whatever it is, as a parent, I've learned that caring for your children, being around ALL THE TIME, and working hard to insure they act responsibly is about the only way we are ever going to reverse the cycle of hate that these cults feed on.

Personally, I would gladly take 90 lashes for the satisfaction thumbing my nose at these cults..

 

Yes friend, I am a Muslim. I do not support such mindless violence, neither do majority of Muslims. But as you would understand, insulting a religious figure would always elicit a strong response. But in this case here in Sudan, i do not believe the Prophet was insulted. It is just the people in Sudan felt that way. I believe everything will turn out to be fine.

I believe in mutual respect. The issue of cartoons of the holy prophet were very insulting.

Look around, Christians worship Jesus Christ more than they worship God. Prophet Mohammad(Peace be upon him) did not want this to happen. He always declared that he was only a man. He was just as fragile as any other human being. He always exhorted the people to worship ONE TRUE GOD, the God of Moses, Solomon, David, Jesus Christ and many other prophets that God had sent to earth from time to time.

The main point is, no depiction of the prophet is allowed. It is a direct violation of his command. And depicting the prophet in cartoons is in such a bad taste. That made the people angry.

 

You know what, YOU ARE SICK!

Have you ever read any Muslim insult Prophet Moses or Prophet Jesus? but you never loose any opportunity to lash out against Islam.

If you don't have anything good to say, DON'T SAY IT.

 

So why do people call their children Mohammed?