Teacher arrested for letting class call teddy bear Mohammed

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  1. grab my heat

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    #181
    It wouldn't stop me fighting in the cause of Allah (swt).
     
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    #182
    So I understand you properly. In Islam, you are saying, that insults, words, at some point, merit bloodshed?

    This seems to differ from what Aceday has posted:

    with more,

    In terms of your faith, then, one of you must be right, and one of you wrong, because the views the two of you have posted are mutually exclusive. As an unbeliever, and one who wishes to respect your faith and your right to it, yet who also resists violence over words, I need to ask - which one of you is right?
     
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    #183
    There are some circumstances when muslims are allowed to fight, eg. when physically attacked, prevented from practicing Islam etc.

    You are quoting him out of context, Grab-my-heat is just responding to your statement, that someone stronger than him wouldnt stop him from fighting.
     
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    #184
    As I've already said, if someone is provoking you in front of your face after 3 times of asking them to stop or "Peace!" in the context of the Quran, what other choice is there? (I'm agreeing with Acedays answer).
     
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    #185
    Walk away? Otherwise, I don't know - have you thought of asking Aceday? Because to me, the one that comes to mind most immediately, is walk away. Knowing in my heart my faith is right, and that both the Creator and the Prophet are above such trivialities, I wouldn't give $0.02 to someone behaving like a belligerent fool.

    (I see that you edited to add "I'm agreeing with Aceday's answer after reading my post). I don't understand this addition to your post.
     
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  6. grab my heat

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    #186
    What if you can't walk away? Ovbiously if you can avoid the confrontation, do so, but if they keep following you and provoking you, there is no choice.
     
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    #187
    This does feel like an academic exercise, but nevertheless, can you provide an example of when you cannot walk away, or otherwise avoid the confrontation, when someone insults you?

    More to the point, in the real world. The cartoon debacle. The artist who made the cartoon was an asshole. Should his blood have been spilt?
     
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    #188
    No

    10limit
     
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    #189
    No, I don't believe I am. Let's not misrepresent what was said.

    Nothing so far about "someone bigger than" grab my heat, or "preventing him from walking away." In other words, if a 75 pound puke insulted your religion 3 times, he'd beat the insulter's ass.

    You said:

    The two of you are diametrically opposed in the answer. So, sincerely, which is it?
     
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    #190
    Thanks.

    fillercharacters
     
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    #191
    This is not the first thread i have seen you twist and quote people out of context, you do it alot.

    Grab-my-heat was responding to what he would personally do and after 3 times he would get provoked.

    No-where on the planet is there such thing as free speech! There is always limits, in one persons eyes and anothers these will always be different.

    This woman didnt do it deliberately so she shouldnt have been punished.

    If she had done it deliberately, i would say she should be deported.
     
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    #192

    About Muhammad

    What would Muhammad do
     
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    #193
    You can delude yourself with pig Zionist propaganda and lies like that as much as you want. lol
     
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    #194
    Can you show me the truth, then ?
    What exactly of what is written in the links i gave is a lie ?
     
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    #195
    ALOT, for example there is no such thing as satanic verses, this is completely baseless! Keep brainwashing yourself, we call people like you and rick ross, KAFFIR. That is the arabic word for poeple who cover up the truth.

    I shouldnt expect much from an atheist jew. lol Russian?
     
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    #196
    Don't waste your time. lol
     
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    #197
    WHOA! Atheist, and Jew. Are these by definition bad words, to you?
     
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    #198
    Calm down, its called an oxymoron. Now i think you are just looking for people to confirm your petty delusions.
     
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    #199
    Since it's widely known there are secular jews, Devilhellz being one of them, it isn't an oxymoron, but your comment registers an opinion on what those two words mean.

    Explain yourself. While you are at it, please tell me what petty delusions I hold.
     
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    #200
    Not really. Unless you think Judaism is a race of people. Its a religion with a book and 10 commandments, the first being, worship GOD with no partners.

    Thus, I was mocking the concept of an atheist jew. I dont need to explain myself for your perverted interpretations of what people say. Which are really starting to get out of hand, maybe double read a post before you reply.
     
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