TargetFirst Fraud?

Discussion in 'Pay Per Click Advertising' started by Citizen, Oct 18, 2005.

  1. #1
    I need some advice for what to do about this.

    I signed up for targetfirst.com and have been running their ads for a month and a half. Now that its three days past when they were supposed to pay, they arent paying any of their publishers and aren't returning emails or phone calls.

    They have a quasi-official review site with a forum and aparently they havent paid anyone and arent responding to anyone on that site either.

    What should I do?
     
    Citizen, Oct 18, 2005 IP
  2. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    Get together on a class action suit with other members?

    I was with tehm when they first were mentione don SitePoint a few months back. I used them for half a month and made a good amount (over $2k) but dropped them mid month because they started underperforming adsense and didn't add them back.

    Glad I didn't now ;)

    From what I understand one of the founders (Tom) left and things have gone downhill ever since.
     
    GeorgeB., Oct 18, 2005 IP
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    PLAN A: What I would do, is kindly ask them for your money and if they refuse to give it, move on to plan B

    PLAN B: The internet is a big place, with a lot of power, especially when it comes to webmaster stuff. Spread the word about them. For example, I have a website
    http://www.webmastergalaxy.net
    which is a website where you can share webmaster opinions, write a review there about targetfirst.com and not only will others read it, if your in a forum you can just give a link to that webpage.

    Hope that helps.
     
    Avatar, Oct 23, 2005 IP
  4. Citizen

    Citizen Active Member

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    Whoa... this goes even further.

    Many of us have been emailing them asking them politely about our unpaid balance, with no reply.

    Finally, the webmaster of targetfirstreview.com (a fansite for TargetFirst, who now runs google ads :) ) emaied Jim Busse and Tom Keugler with this:

    http://www.targetfirstreview.com/showthread.php?t=110

    Its pretty hilarious. They're threatening the publishers for "email spam" requesting their unpaid balanced.

    But wait, it gets even better. Here's where it gets really weird

    The co-founder of TargetFirst registered a second forum username at targetfirstreview and made these posts. It was confirmed by IP comparison that this user "webart" was the same person as the co-founder of TargetFirst:

    http://www.targetfirstreview.com/showpost.php?p=492&postcount=3
    http://www.targetfirstreview.com/showpost.php?p=502&postcount=5
    http://www.targetfirstreview.com/showthread.php?t=107

    It has become perfectly clear now that co-founders Jim Busse and Tom Keugler have no intention to pay their publishers, some of which are owed thousands of dollars.
     
    Citizen, Oct 24, 2005 IP
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    dzcap Well-Known Member

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    I was so tempted to join, good thing I didn't or I'd lose a lot of money. They seemed very reputable at the start, wonder why they became what they are now.
     
    dzcap, Oct 24, 2005 IP
  6. extreme90

    extreme90 Banned

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    i was using them and i was get paid so i trust on them
     
    extreme90, Oct 24, 2005 IP
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    xboxundone Well-Known Member

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    glad i just did the advertising side when the offered 100 in free traffic and only got about 20 worth of the traffic... .. and i didnt pay a dime I feel bad for yall that got stuck
     
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    Well, I asked the owner of TargetFirst.com to do a review of TargetFirst and he kindly agreed to do so.
    You can read it here
    http://www.webmastergalaxy.net/ads/TargetFirst.php

    he rated them 1/10 and his overall comment was

     
    Avatar, Oct 27, 2005 IP
  9. dzcap

    dzcap Well-Known Member

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    The owner rated his own company 1/10?
     
    dzcap, Oct 29, 2005 IP
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    nol,lol. The own of TargetFirstReview.
    My bad.
     
    Avatar, Oct 29, 2005 IP
  11. honey

    honey Prominent Member

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    I am glad they owe me only $35
     
    honey, Oct 29, 2005 IP
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    WPH Guest

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    They owe me about $580. I have been with them for four months and the previous three months I have been paid without problem (some more than my current balance outstanding). I dont think its a scam, I mean they have paid me and I had good service, but I do believe they are going through changes.

    I have managed to email Jim Busse, the co-founder and am hopeful of getting my payment, however due to the hurricane paying a visit to florida I am having to wait until it passes over, Jim is based in Florida. Anyway, cut a long story short, I have dropped targetfirst, I am hopeful of getting my money and I am 99% sure this was not a scam just a badly managed company.
     
    WPH, Oct 29, 2005 IP
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    yours Peon

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    one of mine friend jojn them and get amount in paypal.
     
    yours, Oct 30, 2005 IP
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    yours Peon

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    they paying good so try again
     
    yours, Oct 30, 2005 IP
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    mytechlab Peon

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    you can sign petition againts them at their own website...
     
    mytechlab, Nov 4, 2005 IP
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    mate_pl Active Member

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    33 to me...
     
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    yours Peon

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    yes they move nowwwwwwwwwww >>>>>.
     
    yours, Nov 14, 2005 IP
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    Blitz Well-Known Member

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    They owe me just over $100...

    I know the guy who was the first 'Site of the Month' for being the highest performer, it's got his own quote on the site saying how brilliant TF are :) Now they owe him alot of money, I don't think he would say the same thing, hehe

    Wish I hadn't recommended them in previous DP posts though.
     
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  19. honey

    honey Prominent Member

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    Any resolution on this ? Or a BAD Debt ?
     
    honey, Nov 22, 2005 IP