Hello All, I hope you have already knew that reciprocal link building is not as vital today as it was in past. As I mentioned many times in forum that reciprocal link building is not a ethical way now a days to gain link popularity for your site. When we first started to exchange link then it was like this : A web master visit other site and ask that webmaster to place his link and vice versa. 2 years back also this method was ok. But now how we are exploiting this system ? We are randomly exchanging link with sites similar or dissimilar to us. For this reason search engine spiders already know the process we are practicing is un natural, so they are not paying much attention to this link building process. A site having a link directory means either it is taking part in reciprocal or one way (or so called 3 way) link building process. SO every thing is artificial now. So how to overcome this situation ? Here's my answer : Convert your link page to content page i.e. where some useful information about your site will be there. Then place other sites link information (link partner site's info) in a paragraph like ... If you are placing a site related to "watch" then the code you should use Looking to buy <a href="http://www.shopwebsitename.com">Rolex watch</a> ? I have found the site <a href="http://www.sitename.com">Sitename.com</a> is really good. It should be some thing like this. Place 4-5 lines about your site or your knowledge (with out placing any hyperlink), then again place a link partners link information. Same thing for other sites too. By this way your link page will completely look natural. If this process maintained by your link partners then both of you will be natural in the eyes of search spiders. Don't keep more than 20 outgoing links on one page. I know some people put many links on one page because they fear if they create new page then that new page will not get PR and they'll not gain link partners because they are unable to provide good PR to their link partners. I'm again saying Page Rank doesn't matter, though it gives some good visualization for visitors for now it hardly mean any thing. Just check if all your pages of your sites are cached by search engines, that's all. I know creating unique contents for each category of your existing link directory is tough but if you want to look it natural then it has to be done. If you find it hard to get one way link for your site then it's the best way. Before exchanging link check that site's page structure (if using frame, how many outgoing links more than 100 is useless, cached or not, is it integral part of that website ?) I mean some webmasters have bad habit of making fool other site owners. They just make a page which they by any means manage to get indexed and add lots of site's link information. Those are not useful because until and unless a visitor can see the page it's useless having a link back from such sites. Every time I ask for creating page for your visitors not only for your own benefit. If you are able to create a "link page" (the kind I was talking about) which you think will benefit your visitors then search spiders also find it visitors friendly. If visitors like your site or link page then they may refer your site to some body else or may give you a free one way link (maybe!). I'm expecting another hot debate Kausik
not so far, as I'm trying to create consensus so that all of us in this forum can take benifit from it. Advertsing or take links on rent for one way link is expensive. If we can all go for this concept then all of us can be benifited.
I agree with you, it's important to have content on the pages you are providing the links on, but, nevertheless the SE's will still see that A links to B and B links to A
I agree with mdvaldosta. Even though you format the link exchange pages different, making the appear to be content pages (which may help the value a little), it is still A - B and B - A . Reciprocal linking still does work thou. Just needs to be implemeted properly.
Good topic. Intuitively, to me, Kausik's idea seems to make sense, especially if SEs weigh "natural" and "relevant" text surrounding hypertext in their estimation of link relevance. Is there any data to support whether added credence is given to pages which link in the way that Kausik is suggesting? More on this can also be found here in Jim's Boykin's blog on crappy link pages. Paul
May be it would help . It is although difficult to develop a page each time you exchange links . You must first have enough pages to hold the "content" of the "other" person's website , all you plan to exchange links with . May be like 100 . Then you must get them indexed and all hold equal PR . If you want to exchange links with someone whose related content you don't have then you will have to wait for the next PR update because the other person may not place your link on a pr4 page when you do on a pr0 page with new content .( new page) Just before the PR update , may be they remove your link while your new page picks pr sending them PR . It would get difficult to track whose's linking . Plus developing new content each time you exchange links will be a mess.( like 10 per day). You might want to ask the other webmaster to send you an article . Aren't there article submission sites ? If there article is good , it will get picked by many other webmasters . If not , then would you like to present it to your visitors ? When you were planning to exchange links you would have made a list of all webmasters to whom you will send emails after you have your pages indexed and hold PR . Now you have about 100 or more emails to send in one go . You might want to use a software but then many people don't like to read emails which are sent to a group . "Dear webmaster", "dear friend"... Oh, you cannot use a software because each email has to be different because the page where you will place their link is different . Let me think how I will send a "personal" email to 100 people in one go . Then comes in the success rate . Let's say 20% emails didn't make it through the spam filters . Another 20% didn't pay attention to "reciprocal link" in subject . Another 20% read the email but were not positive about the exchange because search engines still know site "A" links to site "B" and "B" to "A" . 40% thought it worthwhile . but another 50% of these removed your link after a short while . Man that's lot of work for 20 links in 3 months ,( PR update). But a good concept. Regards jeet
Yes it's really hard to build link pages like that, but if we all do it'll be really great for us. Search spiders will find that A links to B and vice versa but they will not look generic as now. If you check your link pages you'll find that google is not spidering all your link pages so frequently as your content pages because it can understand they are all dumb link pages, so better not to waste time. If you check some sites you'll find that that site may provide upto PR 4 link pages but surprisingly that page is not cached. Like our own link page . Try link:www.webpromotioner.com/links/Web-Hosting.html in google, you'll not find any thing but it's PR 2 !
What is difference between content and description that we are giving with Anchor Text. As per KAUSIK I think description is not treated as content.
you can easily understand on a link page that it was made only for showing links. I was talking about making content pages where we can put link in paragraph. And yes Link description and contents are not same. If you check during link exchnage many high quality sites don't provide their link description. So please don't argue with me try some thing innovative through which all of us can be benifitted.
Innovative to do what ...? Disguise reciprocal links ? The point is that google still knows that site A links to site B and B to A. Also ,Nobody is arguing instead we are trying to figure out how useful is the method you mentioned ! Every product and every theory has their own plus and minuses . That's all we are trying to figure out ... Once people find your way effective , they will give you credit for it but until then it's discussions ... Regards Jeet
Ofcourse Google can pick it. But with this approach it'lll not look generic as of now. I think you haven't checked the title of this thread, it was started with "reciprocal" in subject. No one here talking about fooling Google, from where you came with the idea of fooling Big G ? I never mentioned any word from where you can tell we are discussing a process of fooling search spiders! Any way every one is here free to coment on any thread. Obviously some like and some one don't but we were discussing some technique from where we all can be benifitted.
I checked the title but looks like you didn't read my posts . That's why you are "stressing" on WORDS "fooling big G" which I never mentioned . Jeet
From my experience (i am using this method for quite some time), putting contents into your link page will actually get better response from the other webmaters -- especially those contents/articles are related to the link's websites. also, from the user's point of view, related contents or articles ofcourse are better than just a bunch of links with over-promoting description. however, a reciprocal link will still remain as a reciprobal link. adding contents or whatever into the page will not change the fact on that. sidebar: i had been running some link exchange campaign recently BUT the response is extremely low even my page PR are 2~3. seems like people are hesitate to exchange link after the big G jagger updates?
FOr which category you were trying to exchange link with others ? We still find reciprocal linking a bit easy than one way.
kausik, mainly from consumer electronics sites. OFCOURSE reciprocal links are easier than one way links. i am saying that its hard to get good link trade partners compare to one year ago. webmasters seems afraid (or dont care anymore) to exchange links. voasi, if you dont mind, i would like to answer the question by libertines... implementing link exchange properly means doing this not only for SE, but for the visitors as well. say if you are selling adidas shoes, then link exchange to nike shoes, fila shoes would do good for your users coz they are looking for those things. on the other way, it wouldnt mean a thing if your links are set to hotels and viagra sites. its more to logic sense and its feels more like 'value exchange' ... if link exchange is done properly, i believe it eventually will bring benefits to both site users as well as your websites. think of days when you are using a site as a searcher, isnt that cool if you found all links you needed to do some research or studies?
Excellent point and sure dont the big g know it as well I'd say... What sort of an impact would this have on the size of pages and their organisation?