While I was watching live the conference in Floppenhagen! Brokenhagen! ending in a real X-MESS I pumped into these links, for which I decided to have them translated and distributed to schools. The first: "The Story of Stuff" The second: "The Story Of Cap & Trade" - both are brilliant and will change many peoples' mind forever. -
Translated and delivered to schools? What, you like propaganda taught in schools? Both are bullshit communist propaganda, framing capitalism up as evil. Those people should all move to Cuba or any other still poorly functioning communist regime absent of capitalism. They should take their own cash and send it over to the poor and impoverished nations of the world, instead of encouraging all of us to do the same. How gullible are you?
I don't know if you watched the conference or followed it up somehow, but it was like looking through a crystal. Obama and Hillary acted as if it was drawn from a Hollywood script, Hillary even flashed 100billion per year(of course knowing that it will never materialize, just for the limelight) and the Chinese counterparts did theirs not to get any fruitful conclusion. These two are the world's biggest polluters and have staged a show. Then it was Tuvalu that is a country of 12000 inhabitants, an Island, that brought it to a total stop. It wasn't even on the demonstration globe, so it was written/painted then with TUVALU? Now, why are you so defending and switching to excuses like all the political leaders did there? I don't see the truth as a propaganda. Propaganda as a fact is an American capitalist invention. What purpose does it serve? Now, in short I can only say that Socialism and Capitalism when standing alone by itself are completely wrong. Think about Freedom with responsibility as an ideal, anything else doesn't work. Or do you believe when you say "Nature, I give you money, will you be nice?", and that Nature will obey? By the way it were the third world countries who rejected money offers, especially Tuvalu. Their leaders said we're not going to be bought for 30 silverlings to have our people die. And would you deny the fact that the US makes about 5% of the world's population, but uses over 30% of the wold's resources? and call it propaganda when someone explains about it? Can the US be sufficient with 5% of global resources? Answer: it's technically possible and even without losing standard of living and even increase it.
Really? I suppose you might consider that statement true considering the source of "facts" you provided for the OP. For your edification, here is the source of the word from a credible source. The fact that you blame American capitalists for the invention of Propaganda shows just how far you've come in your indoctrination process by watching things like the idiocy you linked. Why don't you quote from the communist manifesto, since you are going down this path. In the US, the top 1% control 38% of the nation's wealth, while the bottom 40% control less than 1% of the nation's wealth. Coincidentally, the US, with 5% of the world's population also controls 35% of the world's wealth, making our poorest 40% wealthier than much of the remaining citizens of the planet. What would you have me us do about it? Redistribute it, as the woman in your video advised? She is so over the top, Cap and Trade and giving away 100billion US dollars while asking third world nations to live by the same rules we are obligated to live by is not enough. She wants to permit them to keep polluting, AND give them the money. What a !@#!@# moron. Without capitalism, there will be neither freedom or the money to ensure responsibility. Well, there I can agree with you/them. You can pay them whatever you want and they will not stop polluting. Not only would I not deny it, I would embrace it, and shout it from the hilltops. Interestingly, when you compare our contribution to pollution as compared to our ownership in the worlds wealth, we are beating most other nations. That is because luxury's pollute. Cars pollute. Factories pollute. Humans pollute. If that moron in that video wanted to be honest, she would just say, "lets make everyone on the planet equally wealthy, and our pollution footprint will be more or less the same". She would not be that far off. Let the crack smoking begin!!!! Its funny to hear you quote the stuff, yet fail to realize what it is you are quoting.
I don't see it as a blame game. It may take some time and a few more Hurricanes and other unfortunate events before people wake up. Maybe to late then. For now, to much drunk in consumption, lol. No doubt, America has contributed a lot to mankind, but when situation is changing it's better to adjust accordingly. Why not take it as constructive criticism. I'm surprised how people like you jump on it, call it communist stuff, instead of having a closer look. They must be damned good or else they would be just ignored. How can an Island with a population of 12000 pollute the environment? They're drowning already. Sea level has risen more than 5 cm within the past 15 years, this is 40% more than predicted.
One more thing to add on. Those who point to past natural changes like the ice age for example to excuse or as shelter, consider the time and how long these processes took. The last 100 years are not even the blink of the eye compared to natural changes unless it was a huge meteorite that led to the extinction of Dinosaurs in just a moment.
The US and other industrialize nation will object to it because it will force many companies to convert the way they normally do business, this could lead to a higher cost and less profits for them and some may even go out of business. You just cannot drop something and say, "you know you need to convert this machine polluting into an environmental friendly ones", it wont happen over night, their government will need to help them out and even guide them and give them rewards for changing, but, that cost government money and countries like the US don't want a pressure bill that forces them to act towards something that they had planned in the future anyways, but the world is saying they need to act now because changes around the world are happening now more than ever. People noticing more natural disasters around the world, Tuvalu is being swallowed by the ocean, the Tsunami that happened 5 years ago, New Orleans hurricane, the storm in the British Isle, volcano eruption in the Philippines as we speak etc,. As I see it, that natural disasters had always happened, earth changes and at anytime it could self-destruct without help from humans. It isn't so much that we're killing earth, it's earth killing or building itself, though we only harm ourselves with our own pollution and shouldn't worry so much that a great part of the ice in the Antarctic is melting and headed towards Australia. Those aren't done by humans, the planet can taken care of itself, it is not like were nuking someone every day and causing a global climate that nature needs to adjust based on man made pollution. As I see in a black and white images of the great industrialize era of the 18th/19th century, were a pictures of New York city is virtually unseen due to the pollution that those factory plants are causing, it is not like that today. I remember in the 70's and 80's of those smoke stack just outside the city, but I barely see them now, that's because we never like to see them and had made companies to pollute less by adapting a new ways and they did, but those changes did not take place after a bill had past, it took decades to implement the changes we see now. And a new era came with this gas-guzzling SUV's and cheap throw-away material products that is causing a new era of pollution that it needs to remind or educate the public to not consume so much of it or find other ways. What China's factory today, is what the US was 100 years ago, in many towns in China that is so polluted that you can't even see your house a block away from you, those are damaging the humans, causing deceases and mutation to humans, but earth can handle it, it may not look at a normal state as we know it, but it will do fine, even if it one day becomes just like Mars were it is inhabitable by us living things, bad for us humans and other life living form on this planet. Look at the map of the planet, it look like a puzzle, where Australia was deeper south near the Antarctic and North/South America was joined by Africa and it parted away into what it is now, those are the things that earth does, this planet does what it does when it does it and not you and I can prevent it. There are always be a volcano eruptions, earth quakes happening every minute in many different parts of the world. The continent and shifting an inch per year, that tells you it's moving, the place your standing right now, but what is 1 inch per year anyways, those ads up to 100 billion inch in 100 billion years from now, but so what we don't live that long, we only think for today and for ourselves and the future generation is getting carved out of life that we are still lucky to enjoy. When I was a youth, I notice the map of the Southern parts of the US like Alabama, Louisiana, Florida etc,. Those states in that region, mother nature wants to claim it, but we believe throwing some foundation of some concrete elements and call it a wall or a levy will stop mother nature from advancing, man will lose eventually some years from now, oh, the Dutch had done a great job of levies though and the Japanese with those walls to keep out Tsunamis from entering their towns and concrete blocks to keep lava from advancing into it's towns if it does get into that, but those reinforcement are no match for when mother nature really shows it force, most of us have not yet experience those, but a great distractions will occur one day, maybe not in my life time (crosses fingers) but it will. Think of other form of things that could damage earth and has before many times over, meteorites the size of stadium would surely lessen the world population. When we try to advocate for the change in the environment, it is for us, so that we can live cleanly and healthy, we don't market it for earth, because, again, earth form as a livable planet by itself as we know it today. Instead of saying, "Be nice to the planet" How about saying "Be nice to our future generation" because those are the people that will be dealing with the consequences, earth will be earth, earth does what planets do, and , I, really don't know what planet do.
I call it communism because that is what those videos promote. Oh sure, they would like to hug a tree, and have a few other liberal agenda items built in, but it is basically a communist agenda. I particularly like how they blend in a few psuedo scientific facts and legitimate complaints for spice, then dumb the entire presentation down for general consumption. With the nice cartoony look and feel and a few common sense items, people like you don't even bother to fact check the blatant lies being presented: Lie 1) More than 50% of the US budget is spent on the military. Truth: 21% (source) Lie 2) Government should be bigger than the corporation Truth: This is a left wing talking point for people who like big government. Of course private enterprise is bigger than the government. The founding fathers of our country never wanted it to be otherwise. Lie 3) It is our governments job to take care of us Truth: Another left wing talking point. It is not our governments job to take care of us. The Constitution specifically spells out the duties of our federal government and, in fact, spends much more time saying specifically what it is NOT to do. Let me assure you, "taking care of us" is not in there. Perhaps the biggest lie on the Cap and Trade video was the absolute assumption of the knowledge of the cause and effect of global warming. I''m interested in how it is that video's producer thinks giving money to third world nations is going to fix the problem to pay our "eco debt". I think she should send me the funding she receives from the Tides foundation to pay her idiocy debt. I suppose that makes Snookie on Jersey Shore "damned good" too? Just because you make a clever piece of propaganda that is embraced by some portion of our population, doesn't make it good, truthful, or right. Insidious is a much better description. I can appreciate the existence of this tripe for one reason only. It should cause intelligent people to go fact check the bullshit that is being spoon fed to our children. So they are drowning in 5cm(a little over an inch) of water? What, are they all sticking their faces down in puddles and breathing in through their noses? Seriously, how does one drown in an inch of water? Even if you could drown in an inch of water, what solid proof do you have that 5cm of rising sea level is the result of man made global warming? Even if you could produce such proof (which you cant), what proof do you have that if we all quit doing anything that produces carbon today(which would cost millions of lives), the sea level would quit rising? To buy such a cock and bull story, you would have to have child like naivete, which is why they want to show this crap in our schools. Regarding the pollution a small Island can generate, you should go visit practically any island in the Indonesian island chain. You'd be impresed at the ability of just a few people to make the air un-breathable with two stroke fumes, burning garbage, and sewage. Sure they don't have the factories located on those islands, but they import and buy all the goods produced by those factories, wherever they may be. Without many of those goods(lights, water pumps, clean water storage tanks, vehicles, etc), those populations would suffer dramatic humanitarian costs. Shall we quit producing the goods they use to exist in those remote locations? Wake up man.
http://www.physorg.com/news178804829.html It happened in a short time then, it could happen in a short time now. It may happen while we are still figuring it out. I'm still not going to light my hair on fire because someone says it will help without solid scientific evidence.
omg! they say that deforesting produces more carbon than all the cars in the world.. if only i gave a shit nothing i say especially on here is gonna change anything, same with you. you might change some guys mind on how he feels about something, but whoopie, congrats. you wasted what 15 minutes typing! i do agree with you on a lot it sucks and it hurts but so doesn't the truth
This is like explaining the use of triggering a gun and how long it takes from this point on to the target. There are no records of development until to the triggering stage. Whereas now we have extensive data and expertises, for our situation, to not let trigger the worst. To tame and not to exploit the planet is even a biblical call.
Not that it has anything to do with it, but you shouldn't forget you are talking to a guy who likes the idea of making Bible/Quran toilet paper. As I said before, every time you breathe you "exploit the planet". Are you ready to stop breathing? No comment on the obvious and blatant lies put forth in your videos?
I do sense the satanic tongued arguments in your posts. Anyway lets look at a government source(Australia) for example. Lots of interesting stats. Have a look for more here http://www.bom.gov.au/
Me and Satan are tight, thanks. You wouldn't be the first person who thought I was the devil. Thanks for the general link to the Australian bureau of Meteorology .
Nah, I don't think that you're a devil, but I do wish that you'll pump into a good pastor and that your live becomes happier then.
My life couldn't be happier. As Jesus said, "My food is to do the pleasure of him who sent me and to make his work complete". When I respond to your comments, I think to myself, "What would Dubya want me to say?". It always gives me a smile.
If you, ahem, "pumped" into a good pastor would this make you feel better Obamanation? I hear guys feel much better after "pumping" into other things, but I think the effect is only temporary. Man, that's one time where a typo seriously changes the whole sentence. Wrong, so so wrong....
... of course it should read bump, lol. Thanks for the correction. After that you still can pump some support to the pastors church. MERRY X-MAS! TO ALL
What is wrong with pumping directly into the pastors themselves? Many of them would like it, if the stories hold true.