Swine Flu - Why LEGAL immigration poses a much greater risk

For those of you who don't use airports, when a foreign national enters the US legally they are required to have all fingers on both hands and both thumbs scanned. This involves touching a glass plate, The same glass plate touched by everyone else, four times.

Now, imagine if one of the people entering the states legally was infected with swine flu, had previously sneezed on their hand and then used the glass scanning plate, the same one as everyone else. that has the potential to infect thousands of people every day.

And thus concludes the argument that legal movement into the states poses a significantly higher risk, by it's very nature, than illegal movement.

 

The glass plate can be cleaned and the airports can be shut in the event of a swine flu outbreak.

The danger from an uncontrolled border is that there is now ay to close it down should there be an emergency.

 

Yeah it can be cleaned... but it isn't, Even though we are currently experiencing a swine flu outbreak. neither are the guards hands between touching documents which could also be carrying the virus.

Legal movement, by it's very nature, poses a significantly greater risk of spreading infection that illegal movement. Shall we get on to the risks of travelling within a confined space with hundreds of others for hours on end compared to a single person hopping over a fence?

Sorry bogart, i know how desperately you would like to spin this as to make illegal immigration the riskier factor.. but that just isn't the case. let's stick to facts. You are just going to have to find another stick to beat Mexicans with.

 

You beat a piñata with a stick.

 

So let me understand, immigration is a bad thing?

 

If its illegal yes.

 

In times of potential pandemics all movement is a bad thing. But if we were to single out movement between countries, by it's very nature, legal movement poses a significantly greater risk when it comes to the spread of viruses.

 

How is it a higher risk when we don't know what the hell the infected illegals are all touching? They could touch just as many door knobs as legals at an airport touch a plate glass. Sheesh.

 

yeh they could, but there isn't going to be a continuous stream of people touching the same doorknob on their way into, or out of, the country. Unless you are of the ludicrous opinion that illegal immigrants immediately make their way to the customs desk of an airport on entering the country and start groping doorknobs.

 

1. The flu is coming from Mexico. The flow of illegal immigrants from the source country of the virus is of bigger concern that the multitude of passengers visiting legally from countries with few or no flu cases.

2. Should a legal traveler end up with the flu, they can be identified and can be tracked and contacted. The illegal immigrants are not able to be contacted or followed up should they or someone they were traveling with come down with the flu.

3. Most illegal immigrants are poor and trying to avoid being caught. Even if they get fly symptoms, they are unlikely to seek medical treatment. Whereas, legal travelers usually are tourists who have medical care both at home and would seek it for the flu here.

There are a multitude of factors you are ignoring, including common sense, when you desperately try to make the facts fit a political desire.

 

A bigger concern should surely be the fact that even more people travel legally from, and to Mexico, and have to go through a process already shown to be more adept at spreading a communicable disease at a faster rate and to a wider area.... what am i talking about, of course it's not a concern of yours because your concern isn't the spread of the virus at all, your concern is using others panic about a disease to demonise a group you dislike.

 

The US accepts 1 million legal immigrants a year.

Should there be a health emergeny, we can suspend the legal immigration from countries where there are outbreaks.

At this point the swine flu is going into hibernation.

The US needs the ability to shut down the border to both legal entry and illegal immigration should the virus mutate into a more deadly strain.

Closing the border in the event of an emergency will not stop the virus but will give the US an additional 2-3 weeks to prepare.

 

Agreed Bogart and this 2-3 weeks time can mean the difference in thousands if not millions of lives if this thing does mutate later.

 

Is this group we dislike Mexicans? or illegal Mexicans? I definitely don't dislike Mexicans. I dislike illegal ones, damn right, and lots Americans have plenty of reasons to dislike them, including bringing more swine flu over the borders when they're not supposed to be here.

 

I have to say I don't always agree with you Browntown, but those are some mighty fine points you make there.

Didn't they even divert a flight last week because one of the passengers was having symptoms of the flu? They got her off the plane ASAP and took her to the local hospital to cut down on contamination...

 

The US is working to make the North American Union. (Mexico, Canada and US will become NAU). This is why boarder's stay open.

CNN News Report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA

 

Like i have pointed out, legal movement poses a greater risk of spreading the virus, so if your concern is the spread of the virus, you should be opposes to all movement, which you aren't.

My problem isn't that you are opposed to illegal immigration, my problem is the fact that people are misrepresenting the facts and using a current health scare to demonise a group. if you are against illegal immigration your argument should be able to stand on it's own merits.

 

Meanwhile, here at home, we have idiots trying as hard as they can to prove Darwin correct with Swine Flu Parties.

 

would that be some sort of voluntary eugenics?

 

No ones misrepresenting facts anywhere. Anyone with common sense knows that illegal aliens pose a great threat with things like the swin flu(among other things). My grandparents came into this country legally during the great depression. You can adjust airport screening but you cant adjust knowing which illegal alien in your country is a carrier or not and all of a sudden within a few days its out there spreading.
lets hope that common sense prevails here