Supplemental results, everyone recovered?

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  1. andy_boyd

    andy_boyd Active Member

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    #41
    From Mr. Cutts:

    So it looks like the Supplemental pages issue may be clearing up soon.
     
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  2. cgchris99

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    #42
    Andy, when was that posted by googleguy?

    I have noticed new changes. I recently had a new page indexed and it was on page 2 of the serps for my keyphrase. However, it is now gone again.
    However, the DC http://64.233.185.104/ still shows it indexed.

    I thought things were improving with the supplementals but it seems we take two steps forward and one step back.
     
    cgchris99, Mar 29, 2006 IP
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    andy_boyd Active Member

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    #43
    The post was created on the 27th of March.

    Yeah ... he also said that they are trialing some new things on that DC. In other words, the rollout of Big Daddy is complete and it's time to start tweaking the algo / backlinks / PR.

    I dunno, I'm fairly confident that it's just a matter of time before this gets sorted out. Hold on a little bit longer and see what happens. :)
     
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  4. chelsea

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    #44
    Grrrh, Again, my site(s) got more & more pages indexed and I was happy when I finally saw some 70.000 pages. Then, there was this "update"...causing figures going down, about 237 pages ( mostly supplemental ). Occasionally I still saw some 64.000 but now it has stayed with this low figure for ~about a week. No changes.
    Today I look and we are down to 20 results, no supplemental, but even shows title of pages that are not allowed to be spidered since last autum.
    Checked robots.txt - all fine there.
    Do I have to understand this?
     
    chelsea, Mar 30, 2006 IP
  5. andy_boyd

    andy_boyd Active Member

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    #45
    Do you have to understand this? You could try, but the best of luck to you! ;) Lots of people have been caught up in this Supplemental pages mess.

    I have currently got 60 pages indexed, 59 of which are Supplemental pages that no longer exist. I now have over 150 pages that are being spidered regularly but do not seem to get added to their index. Weird.
     
    andy_boyd, Mar 30, 2006 IP
  6. cgchris99

    cgchris99 Peon

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    #46
    I don't see a lot of talk about this problem here on DP. Over on WMW, there are hundreds of posts about this.

    Everyone must be just waiting it out. It's very frustrating when you have the supplemental problem on an ecommerce site. This type of thing could cause a lot of people to lose their jobs or their businesses. Yes, I know people should not base their living out of google traffic. This is why we also do magazine advertising. When your traffic and income drop because of this type of problem, it still hurts.

    I would have thought google would have fixed this problem in a few days. I'm not even sure how many days it has been but it's been quite a while. It seems a lot of sites are still in supplemental h*ll.

    As I said in an earlier post, it appeared that google was making progress on a fix and then a couple days later, we are right back where we started. The site in question is about 1.5yrs old and has always been indexed just fine. That is until the BD update started.

    Now when I do a site:mydomain, the first 5 pages are good indexed results. Starting at page 6 of the listings it is totally supplemental listings with June 2005 cache dates.
     
    cgchris99, Mar 30, 2006 IP
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    #47
    SERP position has never been so high. And Traffic has increased 5-fold. No, complaints here.
     
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  8. cgchris99

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    #48
    I assume this means you have no supplemental entries and that you improved from the Big Daddy update.
     
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    #49
    Anyone seeing any improvement in the supplementals? I have one site that is almost totally supplemental and another that has vbulletin on it. The vbulletin part of the site has a ton of supplementals also.

    Frustrating to say the least.
     
    cgchris99, Apr 2, 2006 IP
  10. chelsea

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    #50
    Wish I could say that I have positive news, unfortunately not. Still all supplemental apart from a few datacenter that show about 20 ( not supplemental ) results.
     
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    #51
    One site of mine finally recovered from the supplemental issue.

    Christoph
     
    nsusa, Apr 4, 2006 IP
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    #52
    nsusa,

    Did you change anything on your site or did it just get fixed by google?

    thanks
     
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    #53
    Came back by itself.

    Christoph
     
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    #54
    I don't know if this is an improvement but I just did a site:mydomain and we went from 4380 results to 79 and none are supplemental.

    Good? Bad? I don't know but at least something is happening!
     
    cgchris99, Apr 4, 2006 IP
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    #55
    Must be Flux in the DCs. site:mydomain went right back to 4380 this morning.
     
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    #56
    Experienced the same. This is far more than frustrating.
     
    chelsea, Apr 6, 2006 IP
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    #57
    My site uses the google xml sitemap. I had a new product listed that was picked up by google just before BD started to kick in. In was #12 in the serps at the time.

    Now this same page doesn't even show in the index, not even in the supplemental list. The items was added to the site on 2/2/2006. Pretty sad that google is that slow at indexing. This site is about 1.5yrs old so it's not a sandbox issue.
     
    cgchris99, Apr 6, 2006 IP
  18. andy_boyd

    andy_boyd Active Member

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    #58
    I've used Google Sitemaps in an attempt to get my old pages dropped and new pages indexed. However, after several weeks of daily crawls by Googlebot I am seemingly not any closer to getting this situation resolved.

    Have any of you tried pointing a few links to content deeper in your site, instead of linking to the homepage or main category indexes?
     
    andy_boyd, Apr 7, 2006 IP
  19. cgchris99

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    #59
    I just added a link deep into the site. I will wait a few days and see if the page in question gets indexed.
     
    cgchris99, Apr 7, 2006 IP
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    romance Well-Known Member

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    #60
    I really don't think that pointing more links to your sites is going to make any difference. I've been having the same problem with my sites (still am) and reading all about it everyone says the same thing. Google is crawling but not adding them to the index.

    You would think that it would be Googles highest priority to get pages back in the index, seeing that theres a good probability that a some of these pages have adsense on them, so they're essentially losing money on not including these in search results.
     
    romance, Apr 8, 2006 IP