A site:http://www.grungeforum.com shows over 1600 results in Google, mostly supplememtal. A site:http://www.grungeforum.com/ shows just over 100 results. Why is the trailing slash so important and why would there be so many supplemental results without it? Are all those supplemental results a bad sign? Like do they count toward my weight?
Supplemental results do not count toward weight. Google seems to have tighted their duplicate content filter. I would suspect there is not much unique content on pages listed under supplemental listiings. Shannon
Smyrl, while I don't think it's entirely clear what "supplemental results" actually means, why do you believe it has anything to do with duplicate content?
doing site:url search is useless as far as the co-op goes anyway. For ACCURATE numbers, you need to use the API. If you are using the keyword tracker, see what that returns for indexed pages. I read through the FAQ again, and it talks about supplemental results and how they aren't usually reflected in the API query.
Minstrel, It is my understanding that if page is not cached and resutl is shown only as supplemental it does not count as co-op weight. That may not be the case. As to the duplicate content issue, when one of my pages was not casched and went to supplemental result only I took a hard look at the page. I had read no cache/supplemental result only usually stemmed from duplicate content. Sure enough when I studied page it had little content and what it had other than links was a paragraph straight from one of my other websites. I immediately removed duplicated paragraph and replaced with another one having samilar information information and within a couple of days page was casched again. As with so much of what we believe about Google, it comes from observation and deduction. I may have deduced wrong. I will not use same paragraph on two sites again, however. S
easiest way is to sign up for digitalpoints keyword tracker. it's free and easy. There is a lot more information in the Co-op FAQ
Dupe content filters? I'd like to see what "unique" content news.yahoo.com has, or many of the other news sites have. They rank well and have tons of indexed pages - but they just rip content from other sites all the time. PR sites are the same, as are the dmoz clones.
The API does not usually return pages when using the site: operator that are listed as supplemental results when using the site: operator in a regualr google.com query. Hence, they will most likely not count towards your weight. I think Smyrl mis-spoke at first and what she was eluding to is that pages that have little text/content have been eliminated from the Google index in the past couple of months. I also have seen many pages that have near duplicate content (across at least 10 sites) removed from the index. IMO this is what Google has been up to, now that I have seen a number of sites return to "normal" rankings in the past week. But, to answer Jim's question, you will need to use the site: operator and the Google API to find out what your coop weight is based on. Oh yeah, and to make things more fun, the API has been returning different data lately depending on what datacenter you get sent to. Good times. You can get a Google API Key here and learn more about how to use it.
If I understand correctly, co-op simply does a google API call to get number of indexed pages and PR to calculate the weight. If this is the case, then, supplemental results do not matter as long as google counts then in its API results. CalBoy
Chachi et al, The little content scenario would well fit my page that fell into the supplemental results category. At the same time my page fell people were reporting some encyclopedia clones were disappearing also and the words duplicate content were used. I regret giving out any bad info. Shannon
I did the API thing and got 1000 pages. There are 1600 total doing site:www.grungeforum.com but only 200 with the trailing slash... Hope to get decent weight since I just bought the site. Should know in a couple days.